planning on 2011 grip n trigger swap

@AJP may be able to give some guidance as well.

DXT_Shooter said:

@AJP may be able to give some guidance as well.

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@AJP is an amazing resource

I’ll take every bit I can get
Especially if it saves me a few wasted dollars
As it stands my only options are to buy and do
Then decide
An expensive proposition
Honestly love the xc
But also love the grip on the sandviper

and here I though 1911s we’re an expensive game
Silly me

No one told you that the 2 in 2011 means 2 times the price?

Going between grips/triggers may require tuning ignition parts. My experience so far:

• swapping in Extreme Shooters grip into STI Tactical (same trigger), no tuning was needed
• swapping in Extreme Shooters grip into a GI X2 (same trigger), tuning was required

So my thinking is swapping between different brands of grips is more likely to require tuning (since Extreme Shooters use STI grips). And swapping between 3-4 grips back and forth may require some dedicated ignition parts for each grip, especially if you are also swapping triggers.

I know others had smoother experiences here

Snatch13 said:

No one told you that the 2 in 2011 means 2 times the price?

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no but thanks for letting me in on that

Tonysmjc said:

no but thanks for letting me in on that

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Don't take it from me, I only own a couple of lowly staccato's. I keep telling myself they're good enough so I don't go down the rabbit hole of Atlas, Vanta 9, MPA, GI, etc.

I still want to shoot an XC next to a ported/ghengis comp P to see if there's a big difference or not.

gun_fan111 said:

Going between grips/triggers may require tuning ignition parts. My experience so far:

• swapping in Extreme Shooters grip into STI Tactical (same trigger), no tuning was needed
• swapping in Extreme Shooters grip into a GI X2 (same trigger), tuning was required

So my thinking is swapping between different brands of grips is more likely to require tuning (since Extreme Shooters use STI grips). And swapping between 3-4 grips back and forth may require some dedicated ignition parts for each grip, especially if you are also swapping triggers.

I know others had smoother experiences here

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fortunately the swapping only goes on till i chose a final configuration
Hell maybe it’ll keep me from buying new ones for a minute
Parts are still cheaper than guns

The longer I do this, the more I think customs are the way to go (or maybe I'm just trying to figure out a way to justify one to the wife). I have never found a gun with everything I wanted. Maybe I just like making them mine. i thought getting the gun that had the most features you wanted out of the box was the cheaper way to go, but its starting to seem that unless you get the base gun at a great price, a custom is the way to go even though it may cost more up front.

I'm going through the same dilemma with optics. I bought both of my staccatos with iron sights because I wasn't ready to transition to optics. Now, I'm putting it off because I can't justify spending the price of another gun in milling, refinish, plates, etc. Funny how our minds work sometimes.

I wish you luck in the endless quest for perfection. The journey is half the fun.

Send it to @MedicGunGuy is my tip!

I mean, I am I huge fan of “swapping parts” on 2011, I have fitted dozens of both metal and polymer grip modules to over 50 different 2011s, but that’s just something I enjoy. Each gun is absolutely its own animal, and some need some tuning, some dont need any, and some need full ignition system swaps! I’ve used cheely, lone star, extreme, old school STI, staccato take offs, GC, NH, and even some of the older MPA grips. It’s about the project and enjoying making the gun yours! At least that’s the way for me!!

A Cheely E2 on an XC is a great combo that may lead to you parting ways with your Erebus. If you plan on carrying it the commander variant may make sense, though I tend to think that version is a little short on an XC. Personally I don't love the Extreme Shooters grips, and think for a reduction you get a far better product sending a grip to our own @Elusive .

The Gephart trigger should be fine, as would a Cheely, Red Dirt. The Fowler trigger is also an interesting option that would look good in an XC, it is just shorter than my preference, might work well for you though. I plan on giving the new Infinity trigger and fire control group for Staccatos a try in my XC, whenever Phoenix Trinity gets around to making more Evo grips...

I do carry the xc it’s my daily
Being too short was my worry
I actually love it as is ( sans mag well) but always trying for just a little better in the carry department

does anyone do a reduction on an aluminum grip ?

@MedicGunGuy was a great resource for me as well, I asked a lot of the same questions.

I went with @Elusive especially if you are considering sticking with a polymer grip, I also had the size reduction added and had a short flat geppert fit and it feels like a different gun to me.

For a more controversial point I personally feel a polymer grip reduces perceived recoil over metal grips. Also if you ever plan on carrying the gun the weight reduction will be appreciated. This is just my $.02 and it might not be worth that much.

AJP said:

A Cheely E2 on an XC is a great combo that may lead to you parting ways with your Erebus. If you plan on carrying it the commander variant may make sense, though I tend to think that version is a little short on an XC. Personally I don't love the Extreme Shooters grips, and think for a reduction you get a far better product sending a grip to our own @Elusive .

The Gephart trigger should be fine, as would a Cheely, Red Dirt. The Fowler trigger is also an interesting option that would look good in an XC, it is just shorter than my preference, might work well for you though. I plan on giving the new Infinity trigger and fire control group for Staccatos a try in my XC, whenever Phoenix Trinity gets around to making more Evo grips...

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I’m also looking forward to seeing if infinity Trigger/FCG is better in my XC(s) than the geppert/ Atlas FCG! I have a new to me XC in .45 that will be my next gun I modify!

I’ve also been toying with modifying my extra tri-11 govt, and seeing how that plays out with a metal grip module, or sell it and play with something else!!

All opinions are welcome
That’s my other fear “ feeling like a different gun”
I’d like the same gun with a slightly shorter trigger and easier to hide grip

hmmm

CarlWinslow said:

@MedicGunGuy was a great resource for me as well, I asked a lot of the same questions.

I went with @Elusive especially if you are considering sticking with a polymer grip, I also had the size reduction added and had a short flat geppert fit and it feels like a different gun to me.

For a more controversial point I personally feel a polymer grip reduces perceived recoil over metal grips. Also if you ever plan on carrying the gun the weight reduction will be appreciated. This is just my $.02 and it might not be worth that much.

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I dont think it’s controversial, I think it’s a YMMV kind of thing! That’s what’s so great about 2011s, there are truly a lot of options!

Tonysmjc said:

All opinions are welcome
That’s my other fear “ feeling like a different gun”
I’d like the same gun with a slightly shorter trigger and easier to hide grip

hmmm

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The fact that you want a disabled grip safety would be reason enough to NOT do polymer for me. Yes I know they can be “pinned” but that’s a modification, where the cheely grips, both E2 and L2 were designed for this to be an option.

The aluminum MAYBE adds and Oz or 2. I’d have to go back to my notes to see, but it’s absolutely not telling. SS on the other hand is obviously.

My polymer to cheely(aluminum) switches have always just made the gun more shootable, with better texture, and with the addition of the disabled grip safety the correct way!

Obviously, this is my opinion!!

I can go either way on the Safty