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Platypus Initial Impression

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#1 · (Edited)
One of these is not like the others...

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I've only got 100 rounds through the Platypus, but pulled out some of my other 1911's to compare.

My Platypus is basically an $1800 double-stack 1911 with a $500 Cerakote paint job. It's inferior in fit/finish to the Wilsons (ACP and Experior) and Nighthawk (Talon 2) and Dan Wesson (PM9).

The Platypus is 1/3 the price of the more expensive Wilson and Nighthawk, so it's probably not fair to compare against them too much.

The Dan Wesson PM9 MSRP's for the same as the Platypus. At the same price point, the DW PM9 is stainless steel vs. carbon steel and aluminum on the Platypus. The Platypus has worse blending on the beaver tail/grip safety, thumb safeties and slide stop. The Platypus has better carry-blending than the DW on the slide.

Stealth Arms got barrel lock up tight, the slide-to-frame fit is tight and all the controls are positive and smooth.

My Platypus has the normal-prickle grip texture. This would probably be too aggressive against bare skin AIWB. The tool-cut metal serrations on the other 1911's give a better hold (except for the Wilson ACP which is horrible). The Platypus prickle grip is good enough for EDC. I would only get the less aggressive Platypus grip texture if you're carrying AIWB - it offers very poor hold.

The Platypus has the worst trigger. All these guns are in the 3-4 pound range, but only the Platypus has creep before the break. I like to shoot fast, so it really doesn't matter to me (I'm going to mash right through the creep), but if you like to stage the trigger, this is going to be an issue. Here, more money means more time spent fitting at the factory. Trigger feel gets better linearly amongst these five guns as price increases.

The Cerakote is Cerakote which means it's tracing paper delicate. The ejection port is already chipping, the magwell is scraped up and it's only been 100 rounds and I haven't even started stuffing it into a holster yet.

Shooting wise... I haven't shot these back-to-back. Comparing by memory, these guns are all about the same for the shooting I like to do (fast drills under 25 yards). More recoil with the aluminum frame and no shock-buff, the commanders point faster than the government. They are all solid guns and more similar than dis-similar. Like any well built 1911, shooting the Platypus is like the familiarity of shaking the hand of friend you haven't seen in a while.

Objectively, striker fired guns have improved so much. I can shoot my compensated Glock-45 better than any of my 1911's. It's not until the high-end 2011's that the hammer guns perform significantly better than the striker guns.

But the 1911 platform is an emotional thing for me. For example, I'll rack and dry fire the Nighthawk because it's just such an exceptionally well built gun with an exquisitely fitted trigger. Experiencing that level of machining is like enjoying a fine meal or feeling the warmth of the sun on a cold day.

The Platypus is in the colors I like, making it the most personalized of my 1911's. It's light because of the aluminum frame and after I confirm reliability with another 1,000 rounds, I'll carry it for my winter EDC.

My initial impression is that the Platypus build quality is in-line with it's base price. It's better built and finished than significantly cheaper guns. It cannot compare with more expensive guns. You are not getting Wilson/Nighthawk levels of fit/finish. The Platypus price increases as you add more colors and options. I think this is what you're paying for - extreme color customization (and Glock mags). It's a good shooter. It's a 1911.
 
#14 ·
My training/dry-fire pistol is a SIRT Glock 17. I probably get five dry-fire for every live-fire round. I'm doing about 1,000 live-fire rounds/week, so at least 5,000 dry-fire per week. So I'm doing more trigger pulls and mag changes on the Glock platform than the 1911/2011 platform I compete with. So I've unintentionally trained myself to deal with the change in mag and grip angle. I need to practice index a couple of times and my brain switches over to whatever I'm holding.
 
#17 ·
Wait, aren't you afraid you'll always miss your target (Stormtrooper colors...)

j/k nice write-up

I can't be the only one who was annoyed when I learned how much Staccato mags cost when I bought my Springfield Prodigy and wanted extra mags. I feel like this Platypus is a good contender vs brands like Springfield and Bul Armory, in this price (base) range. When you factor in the Glock mags, it does make it attractive.
 
#18 ·
I can't be the only one who was annoyed when I learned how much Staccato mags cost when I bought my Springfield Prodigy and wanted extra mags. I feel like this Platypus is a good contender vs brands like Springfield and Bul Armory, in this price (base) range. When you factor in the Glock mags, it does make it attractive.
My biggest gripe with 2011's and why I won't carry one is the magazines. Incredibly delicate and easily over-inserted. Feed lips or tube gets bent by a couple hundredths of an inch and they stop working. The Platypus uses the mag base as a hard stop and also the OEM Glock mag ledge at the top as another hard stop to prevent over insertion.

It's a problem with the 2011 platform - the new Kimber bottlenecks the interior of the grip to try and keep the magazines from over inserting. There really needs to be some kind of standardization on 2011 mags. The feed lips are all different heights and angles and some (MBX) over insert even locked into the mag catch depending on your gun.

The two hard stops on the Platypus and the angle of the OEM Glock mags give a lot of clearance and over insertion doesn't seem to be a problem.
 
#22 ·
I agree completely with your assessment on the Platypus as I picked on up in February of this year and deep dove into a Venom that I just picked up last week.

The Platypus is in-line with its price point. Mine actually has a tiny bit of slide play, but it still runs everything I’ve thrown at it (save the initial break-in period). I feel like my cerakote job could have been slightly better, but I knew I was going to run/holster this thing, so the wear was going to come quickly.

I think that it’s still totally worth the price if you want to customize a pistol looks-wise. Or if you already have a bunch of Glock mags, and want to tiptoe down the double stack 1911 path, then it’s a no brainer. I have zero regrets buying one.
 
#25 ·
"We've tested all the mags they all over insert in pretty much all the guns."
- Owner of Atlas Gunworks
Video below opens at quote.

I think it's a combination of two factors: speed and force.

With enough speed, you can push the mag past the mag catch before it can engage and stop the mag. With enough force, you can push past the mag catch completely.

It's competition, everyone is moving as fast as they can. Mag is going in fast. In the real world, at some point, some LEO, in a life-and-death situation is going to go fast and use too much strength because his life depends on it and he's going to jam the ejector.

 
#27 ·
The platypus is kinda neat. I am not sure I would recommend it as a first 1911 as the grip module is a one piece unit so its a take it or leave affair and considering the different grips out there, I would rather have that option than to not have it.

With that being said, as a follow-on purchase, I would pick one up as a second 2011, based on it using glock mags.
 
#30 ·
Guys at T-rex arms did an extensive test, ie. couple thousand rounds, on their platypus recently. Mixed results in terms of reliability. Lot's of stove pipes. Either bad mags or extractor needed a tune, guess on my part. I still like the idea of this gat, but certainly not any more or less reliable than a staccato. Staccato mags have been drop tested, and seem to continue to function reliably. Over insertion, well that's a thing in 2011s.
 
#32 ·
I think the guys at T-Rex arms are good for some stuff, but they tend to compare everything to a Glock 19 and proceed dumping rounds with no lube out of the box like a Glock 19. They choked out a staccatto a couple weeks back and the guys over on reddit were stroking out.

Overall, I think 2011's tend to be really enjoyable to shoot but they have their quirks and as long as you account for this, there is no issue that can be addressed. Its a great platform. Hell, I have a prodigy that I have put around 1500 rounds in the last few months and have had zero failures. I know its not ton of rounds but I am impressed.
 
#42 · (Edited)
We don't get enough people to separate something like Limited Optics and Open. So if you bring a Staccato XC, you just run that against everyone else. Because turnout is so low, this allows people to just join in with whatever they have on hand. But it also means that we score the guy with a USPSA open gun directly against the guy with a Hellcat and iron sights.

I often see people write something along the lines of "yeah, I tried my friend's Atlas Erebus and it's not much different than my Springfield Prodigy". In single-lane slow-shooting they're about the same. But in hit-factor shooting, the Erebus is basically "pay-to-win" when compared against the Prodigy.

Everyone bought a comped race gun when we figured out they weren't going to score us according to division/gun-type. This scoring model really promotes gun sales. The store owner provided an environment where there's a justification for buying a higher-performance pistol. If you're single-lane slow-shooting, any Glock or M&P is more than enough. But run a gun in hit-factor scoring (especially without divisional separation) and there's suddenly a reason/demand/justification to buy a higher performance pistol because this is where the higher performance is drastically superior to the standard gun.

We're gun guys. It doesn't take much justification to get another pistol. "Honey, I'm 30 years older than the average competitor at the local range, the only way I can keep up with them is if I pay-to-win with an Atlas Erebus" was what I told my wife.
 
#45 ·
I think the target demographic is a younger enthusiast who's based on the Glock platform. He wants to get into the 2011 platform - his aspirational buy is an SVI Infinity (check out the similarly silly names with those guns). The Platypus is the gateway. He gets "one-off" customization (through an unlimited color pallete) like a 2011/Infinity, but can still use his Glock mags and the base cost of the gun is at the lower end of the 2011 range. He can completely avoid the added costs of 2011 mags - my collection of 2011 mags could buy three new Glocks. They're just prohibitively expensive.