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I am just starting to get into long range target shooting. Having a guy (Mike) build the rifle who has built many in different calibers for friends and others including the FBI. His shop is close by and there is a small group of people (i work with one of them) who get together on saturdays and shoot their rifles. Most of the shooting is out to 600 yds and sometimes out to 1,000 yds. Anyway, here is the build that i am going with. Any Thoughts about this set up is appreciated.

Lilja 27" #7 6.5 creedmore barrel 1:8 twist 3 Groove 11 degree recessed crown
Jewell trigger (which i believe can be adjusted from 1.5oz to 3 lbs)
KRG Bravo Chassis
AICS Magazine (10 round)
Remington 700 Action with a PTG Recoil Lug
Scope is Leupold VX 3HD 6.5 -20 x 50 CDS-T 30mm Fine Duplex
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I am just starting to get into long range target shooting. Having a guy (Mike) build the rifle who has built many in different calibers for friends and others including the FBI. His shop is close by and there is a small group of people (i work with one of them) who get together on saturdays and shoot their rifles. Most of the shooting is out to 600 yds and sometimes out to 1,000 yds. Anyway, here is the build that i am going with. Any Thoughts about this set up is appreciated.

Lilja 27" #7 6.5 creedmore barrel 1:8 twist 3 Groove 11 degree recessed crown
Jewell trigger (which i believe can be adjusted from 1.5oz to 3 lbs)
KRG Bravo Chassis
AICS Magazine (10 round)
Remington 700 Action with a PTG Recoil Lug
Scope is Leupold VX 3HD 6.5 -20 x 50 CDS-T 30mm Fine Duplex
Pics or it didn't happen lol
Pics or it didn't happen lol
He is waiting on the barrel to arrive
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Probably can't go wrong with any quality, match grade barrel that's button or cut rifled. I've had a couple Jewell triggers, they're works of art.
Is that a Chambers 22 for your avatar?
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Sound like one heJJ of a build. Should shoot hairs off a fly’s arse
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Very nice! Out of curiosity, are you loading yourself? Interested in why you chose that barrel length for the distance.
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Probably can't go wrong with any quality, match grade barrel that's button or cut rifled. I've had a couple Jewell triggers, they're works of art.
Is that a Chambers 22 for your avatar?
Should had mentioned that he uses the button method he told me why but i don't remember why he chooses that method. yes, that is my Chambers 22LR SSG model
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Very nice! Out of curiosity, are you loading yourself? Interested in why you chose that barrel length for the distance.
Thank You.No, I do not reload, Mike recommended that length saying it would be enough length for the powder to completely burn out? ( i think that is what he said lol. I am very new to this world) He did say he would cut it to any length i wanted but since he knows all about these things i went with his recommendation
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I’ve been meaning to experiment with a short 6.5 CM after being relatively impressed by short 308 (12.5”). But that is not for precision. I have indeed heard that a complete uniform burn on that cartridge requires 24” or more, but I am curious to know if there is a SD comparison out there for controlled loads (not factory) vs. barrel length. I am relatively new to this as well. FYI, take your budget and multiply by pi then add 20% 😅
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I am just starting to get into long range target shooting. Having a guy (Mike) build the rifle who has built many in different calibers for friends and others including the FBI. His shop is close by and there is a small group of people (i work with one of them) who get together on saturdays and shoot their rifles. Most of the shooting is out to 600 yds and sometimes out to 1,000 yds. Anyway, here is the build that i am going with. Any Thoughts about this set up is appreciated.

Lilja 27" #7 6.5 creedmore barrel 1:8 twist 3 Groove 11 degree recessed crown
Jewell trigger (which i believe can be adjusted from 1.5oz to 3 lbs)
KRG Bravo Chassis
AICS Magazine (10 round)
Remington 700 Action with a PTG Recoil Lug
Scope is Leupold VX 3HD 6.5 -20 x 50 CDS-T 30mm Fine Duplex
That's gonna be a sweet shooting rifle. 👍

I think you are starting off with some solid gear.




Very nice! Out of curiosity, are you loading yourself? Interested in why you chose that barrel length for the distance.
Just guessing here, but I'm supposing it is to get a bit more velocity from the Creedmoor without cranking up on powder charge.....free velocity that doesn't add premature throat erosion.
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Should also mention that i had thought about going with a .223 but it would take 12-14 weeks to get a barrel and i wanted a rifle cartridge that has the ability to shoot out to 1K if i ever wanted to try that distance so i went with the 6.5 creedmoreand he said he can get that barrel in 1-2 weeks
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I would highly recommend getting into reloading if you’re going to pursue long distance. You can tune the load to your gun so much better, and even high end factory loads are not as consistent as hand loading. It will significantly improve your groups
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I would also say that you open a whole new world by getting in to handloading. I believe there are a slew of fantastic reasons to roll your own but there are a couple shooting disciplines where it's damn near a requirement and I believe that long range rifle is certainly one of them.
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Should also mention that i had thought about going with a .223 but it would take 12-14 weeks to get a barrel and i wanted a rifle cartridge that has the ability to shoot out to 1K if i ever wanted to try that distance so i went with the 6.5 creedmoreand he said he can get that barrel in 1-2 weeks

My buddies that shoot have all been griping bigtime about barrel delivery time......one of them said he's been ordering two of a kind because he knows he'l need it well before a replacement could be had.
He shoots a lot more than anyone I know....but even to the enthusiast, not a competitor, but an average range rat is gonna run up round count fairly quickly if they have a nice range that is conveniently located.

Nothing wrong with the .223.....but I think you will be much happier with the 6.5 Creedmoor.
Second to the .308 Win, I'd say there is more high quality ammo being made for it right now than any other cartridge. You'll find ballistic resources in abundance, too.

It's a really fun round to shoot.

Doesn't recoil bad at all....and in a 27" heavy barrel....you are going to have minimal jolt.
Watching the impact is gonna be fun. Great follow through habits easier than with something like a 300 WinMag.
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The only thing I would change for my personal tastes is the trigger. I really like the TriggerTech offerings and how they break. Just never could get used to Jewel, but they are definitely awesome triggers. The TriggerTech just feels better to me. But it comes down to personal opinion.

I’m in the boat of shooting factory match ammo. I get the benefits of hand loading and dialing a load. But the factory offerings these days are so consistent. The Federal loads with Berger bullets have yielded some solid results for me, especially in 6.5 CM.

With your proposed setup, you’ll have no issue out to 1,000 yards.
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That should be enough barrel, lol. I've had creedmoors since about 09', early adopter, and had creedmoors in everything from 17"-28". Free velocity is always a good thing, but so is hardiness, unless everything is shot from a bench or belly. I use ai and badger actions, so barrel swaps are pretty easy and take about 3min. I honestly think 20-24" is plenty for 6.5 creed, yes you will gain maybe 15ish fps per inch(that old 25fps/inch is dated and false or atleast heavily caliber/barrel/powder dependent). Punch in a load in an ex-bal solver with only difference being 50-60fps and see what that actually equates to in real world performance. Shortcut.....nothing in drift and a bit more than nothing in drop. Now the feather ruffling, jewel makes a nice bench rest trigger, but they suck as a field trigger. One pierced primer and they are deadlined and have to go back to jewel. They also sieze up bad in light dusty environments. Triggertech makes a good single stage trigger, their 2 stage is not my favorite. Bix n Andy make the best 2 stage currently, giessele a close 2nd(but possibly discontinued). I'm going to assume you had the rem700 action to start with, not my favorite by a stretch, but with extensive work they can be usable. If you haven't got the action yet, I'd seriously look at a defiance, arc's new action, or impact for baller. On the cheap, a stiller or mack.
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Barrel collection for 1 of my badgers, 17"-26". The 17" sends 140eldm at 2675fps, works fone out to 1500.
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Excellent action (700) and scope as well. You'll do well. After you get dialed in go for 1 mile!
I assume you will handload for best results.
I shoot a 7mm STW Sendero heavy barrel and it is simply incredible at long range. Once you get into long range shooting, you'll be hooked for life.

Enjoy!
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I'll also agree on handloading, but the factory offerings for 6.5 and 6 creed are pretty solid. Some handloads, and steel was at 600 or 550(cant remember), target got spun and only edge was showing. I got a hit on edge and a streaker across the back.
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And the classic AI MEME. Sorry, i had to, lol
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