Dan Wesson Seized Slide to Frame, Heritage Model

Discussion in '1911 Gunsmithing' started by Archer, Aug 15, 2020.

  1. Wildcat Creeker

    Wildcat Creeker Well-Known Member

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    Jan 26, 2012
    This may not sound logical, but has anyone ever tried putting the gun in a freezer for a few hours and then tried to remove a galled slide?
     
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  2. cdhbrad

    cdhbrad Well-Known Member

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    Nov 21, 2011
    I have 4 SS DWs and none have ever galled. I suspect you didn’t put enough lube on the rails, disco area, etc. Looking at the photo of the rear of the slide, I don’t see any signs of lube on the rails......it should there because you couldn’t have cleaned that part of the gun. I run mine with Mobile 1/ ATF blend and it is always clearly visible in the area I mentioned.
    DW should be able to correct it for you.
     
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  3. Archer

    Archer Active Member

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    Feb 23, 2013
    There was enough lube. Without a doubt, there was the right amount and type of lube. Right before I shot it, I actually paused for a minute and wondered whether I should grab a paper towel from my bag to clean up the lube that collects out the back of the slide to frame fit. The area you can see has been wiped off a little. Before I put everything away and leave the range, I give everything a quick exterior wipe off so that my range bag doesn’t get filthy. I also wiped that area in the back a bit more trying to see in there as well as possible.
     
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  4. Mike0707

    Mike0707 JMB fan

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    Apr 11, 2019
    Wow. Sorry to hear this- never heard of that happening before! Just bought a new DW myself (not your model though). Don’t like to hear those kinds of nightmare situations. Hoping you can get it resolved.

    Keep us up to date on your customer service experience!
     
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  5. WC145

    WC145 Every day is Saturday and every night's a party!

    Jan 1, 2013
    Yeah, it amazes me every time I read one of these stories. I know it doesn't happen often but the rest of the 1911 industry worked out stainless steel galling issues in the '80s. How is it the DW can't get their sh!t straight 40 years later.
     
  6. Mudflap621

    Mudflap621 Well-Known Member

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    Feb 15, 2020
    Sorry for the mishap and hopefully they get you fixed up.
     
  7. Josey

    Josey Well-Known Member

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    Jun 20, 2019
    Like was already said, Dan Wesson warranty is now being handled by CZ USA in Kansas, not where they are made in NY. My understanding is normally Dan Wesson would remove any burrs and then use a lapping compound. Because the warranty is now being handled out of Kansas, I would be in contact with CZ USA and request a replacement pistol.
     
  8. Greenrunner

    Greenrunner Well-Known Member

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    Dec 11, 2017
    If you can, check that the ejector did not become dislodged or out of position. That might cause your slide to lock up. Happened to me with a full custom gun.
     
  9. razorbacker

    razorbacker Well-Known Member Supporting Addict

    Dec 2, 2011
    Sorry to hear of your DW troubles, have heard of this but never seen it first hand. Patience will pay dividends.
     
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  10. Les White

    Les White Well-Known Member

    Nov 17, 2015
    This is why I don't carry an all stainless 1911. I had it happen on a custom built Commander. If you call and talk to the folks at Caspian they can tell about a treatment to the rails. It has been so long I can't remember how I got mine apart but I think it should be DW's problem.
    Good luck.
     
  11. Old Sea Dragon

    Old Sea Dragon Well-Known Member

    Feb 10, 2018
    I had a Specialist Commander that was replaced after two trips back. On their website they have a message option for warranty work and I always had better results from that mode of communication than voicemails. Even if Keith isn’t handling the work out of his location he will coordinate. My replacement DW shoots sweet and I added another DW since. They will take care of you, bug or not
     
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  12. Dub

    Dub born in the wrong century

    Mar 19, 2017
    I've never had problems with my 2019 stainless DW guns. i ran them wet during the first couple hundred rounds.

    Each were field stripped, wiped down carefully and coated well with Kroil overnight...at least. Then reassembled after running beads of Weapon Shield Grease along the rails. Weapon Shield Oil is used on other parts.

    Both Kroil & Weapon Shield products are approved lubes in the DW owners manual. They are Duty Finish safe....which you don't have to worry about with this gun.
     
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  13. Nef

    Nef Not So-New-Anymore Member

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    Mar 7, 2016
    Wow, This gotta hurt. But as stated above by a few members ... be patient and do not make things worst. If your lack of patience gets the best of you and you make things get worst you give GW an out to say something to the effect of .... 'Since you forced the slide it voids warranty' Give DW a chance to make it right. You may be pleasantly surprised. Keep us posted for sure.
     
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  14. Sneaky One

    Sneaky One Well-Known Member

    Aug 14, 2016
    Would blaster be able to creep in and loosen it up ?
     
  15. Bender

    Bender Supporting Addict Supporting Addict

    Aug 15, 2011
    When metal galls, material is removed from the parts. It gets redistributed in a non-smooth manner. This, in turn, decreases the free space.

    Galling can occur from improper selection of lubrication lack of lubrication, too similar of metal materials or inadequate clearance.

    A manner of force is often required to separate galled parts.
     
  16. pistolpete

    pistolpete Well-Known Member

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    Mar 12, 2016
    I have only 1 all SS semi, a Ruger CMD, so far so good. I've shot it quite a bit, I keep it lubed and it's very smooth. I don't know why I bought the CMD, it's just purty I guess. I did have to increase the powder in my hand loads to make it reliable, also had to seat bullets a little deeper due to lack of a leade. BUT, no galling so far.
     
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  17. wrmiller

    wrmiller The Tinker

    Oct 29, 2016
    I've been shooting a all stainless Kimber for 20 years now, and it has never failed me. I have always run Brian Enos' Slide Glide on the frame rails and a few spots where the barrel and slide interface. Ran this stuff on my race guns too. Worked great, even in Palm Springs in the summer when you pistol would get too hot to even touch.
     
  18. Joni Lynn

    Joni Lynn Professional Pest, NRA Patron member

    Dec 21, 2014
    Best wishes on a good resolution to this issue. It makes me think of my V Bob which mostly just sits around and is probably pretty lube dry at this point. I think I'll go to my gun room and lube a few all stainless guns. These reports of stuck guns gives me concern.
     
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  19. dustinoif3

    dustinoif3 HS Custom LLC Supporting Addict

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    Mar 9, 2014
    Weird this popped up. I just recieved a DW 10mm SS yesterday from a customer thats stuck in the same spot. I hadn't messed with it yet though but I'll try and remember to update.

    Sent from my SM-N975U using Tapatalk
     
  20. azguy1911

    azguy1911 I'm done buying guns, I'm just a bystander now

    Oct 22, 2015
    We'd all love pictures and updates as you attempt to free it
     

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