In the news Senator Jim Webb

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  1. UBOATDOC

    UBOATDOC THE DOCTOR WILL SEE YOU......LATER Supporting Addict

    Apr 5, 2015
    One of the best things Donald Trump could do is to offer Senator Webb a position in his cabinet. He is the only Democratic candidate that made any sense whatsoever in 2016 and is thoughtful, smart and an excellent communicator. I have personal pride in that I served in the Navy when he was Secretary of The Navy and have personal award/decorations signed by him. As anyone who knows about this guy, was a USMC Platoon Leader during Vietnam, received a Navy Cross and wrote the consummate novel about the experience in "Fields Of Fire". He also wrote the screenplay for the excellent "Rules Of Engagement". He would be an absolutely perfect addition to the cabinet.
     
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  2. C_Hallbert

    C_Hallbert Well-Known Member

    959
    Oct 11, 2017
    There is no way I can reconcile Webb’s history of patriotism with his affiliation with the Socialist (Democratic) Party.....
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  3. xerts1191

    xerts1191 Well-Known Member

    Aug 12, 2017
    Couldn’t take it had to look him up, changed his party affiliation in 2006 from rep. to dem. Enough said.
     
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  4. UBOATDOC

    UBOATDOC THE DOCTOR WILL SEE YOU......LATER Supporting Addict

    Apr 5, 2015
    He is the consummate moderate. I have followed him closely for quite some time and per his repeated discussions in interviews he seems much more like a JFK range Democrat(who would be a solid Republican now)than any socialist/progressive. He, in fact, relates how the Dems have simply abandoned their base(he calls them "Working Whites")and traded this for the ridiculous identity/fractional politics of separate groups of different ethnicities, sexual orientation, genders and then attaching labels and "victimization" of each group.
     
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  5. Oldgunner

    Oldgunner Well-Known Member

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    Mar 30, 2018
    He's had a very hard time being a politician because he tells it the way it is, not the way the senior swamp dwellers want you to believe.
     
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  6. UBOATDOC

    UBOATDOC THE DOCTOR WILL SEE YOU......LATER Supporting Addict

    Apr 5, 2015
    Exactly!!!!!! His honest upbringing and absolutism, as well as his training as a Marine infantry officer, allow for a degree of personal integrity that is sadly lacking in most politicians.
     
  7. Oldgunner

    Oldgunner Well-Known Member

    737
    Mar 30, 2018
    He only served as SECNAV for about 9 months because he and Cheney had some real issues and he wasn't willing to give up his principles. I had the honor of meeting him once and have a great deal of respect for him - even if we didn't agree on all points. If you served as an enlisted man in Nam, you had no greater champion than Webb. Read his books and you'll find that they're mostly about the reality of warfare from the viewpoint of those who were "Non-Coms" and enlisted troops. Unlike LTCOL Oliver North, Jim Webb actually served in combat and got his butt severely shot up. "Ollie" achieved fame and notoriety for making Congressmen look stupid during the Congressional hearings on the Bush administration's dealings with regard to countering the "contranistas" in Nicaragua. I'd have to go back and refresh my memories on this, but I'm pretty sure that I know what Ollie did and didn't do because he was a graduate of USNA two years after me. We debated his actions quite a bit. No, I'm not an Ollie North fan. However, he can be a good spokesman for the NRA - until someone starts digging into the facts of his service record. Jim Webb has no such problem. I've said too much.
     
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  8. C_Hallbert

    C_Hallbert Well-Known Member

    959
    Oct 11, 2017
    I believe you may have some miss-information on Lt. Col. Oliver North:

    “U.S. Marine Corps career. North served as a platoon commander during the Vietnam War, where during his combat service, he was awarded the Silver Star, Bronze Star Medal with Combat V, and two Purple Heart medals. ... In 1983, North received his promotion to lieutenant colonel, which would be his last.” Wikipedia

    A friend of mine who graduated from Annapolis was one of North’s Underclassmen. He stood out among his classmates back then. I consider Oliver North to be a fine man who voluntarily assumed the blame to protect Ronald Reagan from untoward consequences of the Iran-Contra Scandal and I would like to see North as a future President if that was only possible.....


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  9. Oldgunner

    Oldgunner Well-Known Member

    737
    Mar 30, 2018
    You're correct about his service in Vietnam. I'd forgotten about his time there as a platoon leader. He also had a tour in Okinawa that's left out of most of the biographical accounts. My reference to his service record relates to some of his non-operational assignments. I don't know anything about his time at the Naval Academy. He entered there in 1962, was out of action for most of two years due to an auto accident, and graduated in 1968. I graduated in 1965. I hope he does well at the NRA.
     
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  10. Gimpster

    Gimpster Kevin G Supporting Addict

    Apr 6, 2017
    How did Senator Webb vote on Justice Kavanaugh? How did he vote on Gorsuch? I know he speaks as a moderate (reasonable) Democrat but I seem to remember him voting pretty liberal in the past and caving to the socialist pressure of his party.
     
  11. C_Hallbert

    C_Hallbert Well-Known Member

    959
    Oct 11, 2017
    Good question. This vote would define his true political identity.


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  12. C_Hallbert

    C_Hallbert Well-Known Member

    959
    Oct 11, 2017
    Senator Manchin III (W.Va.) was the only Democrat to Vote (Yes) on the Kavanaugh Affirmation. Jim Webb did not vote.....


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  13. Gimpster

    Gimpster Kevin G Supporting Addict

    Apr 6, 2017
    And it seems to me when these Generals and Admirals are going up through the ranks they all seem more conservative. But when they achieve their highest rank they all turn Democrat for some reason. Patton and Schwarzkopf being the exceptions.
     
  14. C_Hallbert

    C_Hallbert Well-Known Member

    959
    Oct 11, 2017
    .....Douglas MacArthur and John J. Pershing! Republicans!!!


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  15. C_Hallbert

    C_Hallbert Well-Known Member

    959
    Oct 11, 2017
    Do you know Michael F. Boyer?


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  16. Gimpster

    Gimpster Kevin G Supporting Addict

    Apr 6, 2017
    Yes, and on the opposite side of the political aisle the names are just too many to list but one that comes to mind are Wesley Clark and Colin Powell. Those two seem to be working against the constitution they took an oath to defend. Sorry back to Senator Webb.
     
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  17. Oldgunner

    Oldgunner Well-Known Member

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    Mar 30, 2018
    No, I don't recall him. What class was he in? If he was an underclassmen when LtCol North was there, I was out in the "fleet" flying before he graduated.
     
  18. Oldgunner

    Oldgunner Well-Known Member

    737
    Mar 30, 2018
    FYI. Jim Webb was no longer in the Senate when "Gorsuch" and Kavanaugh were nominated for the Supreme Court.
     
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  19. C_Hallbert

    C_Hallbert Well-Known Member

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    Oct 11, 2017
    He grew up on a Nebraska Wheat Farm attending Annapolis our of H.S. in the mid 60s. I don’t know which class he was in. He got a Scholarship to Berkeley for Nuclear Engineering. Went USMC on Active Duty: Flight School, Choppers; then switched to USN and Medical School. He Retired from the Navy Reserve as a Captain finishing his career a Physician with a Special Ops Command down South. I worked with him for nearly 30 years with him as my Medical Director most of the time. I’d do it again if I could.


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  20. Oldgunner

    Oldgunner Well-Known Member

    737
    Mar 30, 2018
    Sounds like an interesting guy! He certainly didn't follow any standard career path.