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Plastic is for leftovers and bullpup triggers are horrible.
 
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Not my flavor, think maybe they read the room wrong on this one. The SA-35 was a slam-dunk, I'm not sure about this. Haven't heard the huddled masses screaming for more 2,000 dollar bullpups.
 

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It looks like they added every extra tacticool thing they could. Style wise it’s just so busy. I’ve got a Steyr Aug and I like it’s simple futuristic clean style. I know it’s not for everyone. But neither is this hellion. I just installed a Aug trigger tamer and it’s now as good or better than any normal AR trigger. Bull pups don’t have to have crap triggers


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Definitely curious to see how the initial reports are. I have a Tavor with a complete Geissele 2 stage trigger kit installed. I would put that up against most good AR triggers in terms of precision and feel - it was just heavier than a match AR trigger. As for the plastic - SCAR's are (half) plastic, along with Tavors, Augs, etc. I do see the KSG resemblance with this, but it does have its differences. Edit - just noticed the optic height over bore as one other member mentioned. That would be a deal breaker for me. Owned a PS90 for a short time and could never get used to the "chin-weld" way of shooting it.
 

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Not my flavor, think maybe they read the room wrong on this one. [...]
I was wondering something along similar lines. Not sure what would have made the people at Springfield think going into bullpup rifles was going to be a money maker for them.
 

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It looks like they added every extra tacticool thing they could. Style wise it’s just so busy. I’ve got a Steyr Aug and I like it’s simple futuristic clean style. I know it’s not for everyone. But neither is this hellion. I just installed a Aug trigger tamer and it’s now as good or better than any normal AR trigger. Bull pups don’t have to have crap triggers


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Most do, due to the linkage. It's a design flaw until someone fixes it.
 

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This thing looks like the answer to a question no one asked.
 

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Getting a lot more negative opinions than I expected. Bullpups have always intrigued me. I’ve never owned one
 

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I actually like the bullpup concept. Initially, I was surprised that Springfield decided to add one to their line up, as American gun owners tend to strongly favor the AR platform. Now, since this is really just an import of the VHS-2 with a few minor mods (e.g. handguard), it probably wasn't a huge effort for Springfield to bring this to market (compared to developing one from scratch).
 

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I don't know who first said it but, as someone who has owned several bullpups, I agree: bullpups are like socialism; each generation must try anew to do it "right."
 
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I don't know who first said it but, as someone who has owned several bullpups, I agree: bullpups are like socialism; each generation must try anew to do it "right."
Based on your experience, what is it that everyone that wants a bullpup fails to see (or ignores but shouldn't)? Is it the (crappy) triggers, mag location, rifle balance, ... ?
 
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