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Staccato XC optic cut

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#1 ·
I love everything about the Staccatos except for their optics cut plate system. I have been wanting an integrally comped 2011 for some time. I cannot seem to work a deal or finalize a trade or sale on a Costa Carry Comp or an Atlas Erebus. I love the Atlas plate system, but they only cut their own new production guns and will not work on other companies guns. Plus the Erebus is so damn expensive! Not that the CCC is cheap, but you can sometimes find some decent deals on them.

So, with all that being said. I was thinking about the XC and get it milled. I know it's already milled from Staccato. But, I was hoping that since it does not sit very deep into the slide, that I could have it milled even further for a better plate system like the Vulcan Machine Werks or an Atlas plate. I have already called Staccato numerous times and begged them to sell me a XC with no optic cut into the slide. But, they have said no. Which I understand, because they are not one off guns. Plus, in their minds that is what the XL is for, an irons only competition gun.

So, does anyone here have an XC or know if this could be done or has done it?
 
#2 ·
I don't know of anyone who will cut their optic cut on a gun that is already cut for Staccato's Duo. The issue isn't the initial depth, it is the screw holes and their depth, plus lining up the after market cut.

The way I see it you have two options, 1. Get a Costa Carry Comp and have it milled for whatever you like. 2. Get an XC and run CHPWS plates if you want the optic a little lower.

Having an Atlas Erebus and several DUO cut Staccato's I actually think the DUO is the better optic system, especially when run with CHPWS plates. It took me a little bit to warm up to the DUO but after using it for a few years now it is actually among the more clever systems out there.
 
#8 ·
Im a 2011 person and I am going to completely agree with @AJP, if you run the CHPWS plates, the DUO system has had the LEAST amount of issues at least for me.
 
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#9 · (Edited)
Still waiting to hear back from a couple companies I emailed. But, I heard back from Vulcan themselves. They said that they could cut the Staccato DUO/DPO cut even deeper for their proprietary plate system and it will work just fine and lower the optic and move is rearward. So, I may not need to hear back from the other companies. I like the Vulcan mount, so I may just go with them.

Disregard the above crossed out post. Vulcan misunderstood what I was asking and misspoke about them cutting a XC DPO plate. They are only able to cut slick/irons only slides currently.
 
#10 · (Edited)
The answer is “kind of” for an already cut Staccato slide. Looks like the plate is a potential option for an uncut 1911/2011 slide though. It’s beefy milled steel btw. If there’s a good solution for the recoil lugs issue, I may be using this for more pistols.

Explanation in pics below.

The milling is pretty straight forward, just a flat surface all the way through the rear of the slide with two recoil posts and drilled/tapped for two screws.

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This is a plate for an rmrcc. The front two screws attach the plate to the slide. The middle posts are rmrcc specific and is how the optic attaches to the plate. Third set of holes from the top slips onto the milled posts on the slide. Last set of holes is to attach the optional rear sight.

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Bottom of plate.
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staccato dpo cut. You’ll need to mill off the back ledge for the plate to fit.
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the dpo cut is deeper than the intended atlas cut so the front contour (cosmetic) won’t line up. The length of the cut looks pretty close though.
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Remember how the plate attaches, two front screws and two recoil posts. There’s room on the dpo cut to drill and tap the front screws but there’s no material to mill the recoil posts because that area is flat. If you really wanted to make it work, I guess you can drill and tap some set screws or put pins in place of the recoil posts but they have to be pretty snug to the plate to prevent things from rattling free.
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