The Border Bill....You won't like this.....

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by walleyemonster, Feb 15, 2019.

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  1. walleyemonster

    walleyemonster Well-Known Member

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    Jan 11, 2017
    I write this with a little fear and trepidation. I love this forum, and don't like to stir the pot. At the same time we should all be informed as to crap that is going on in government that we really don't know.
    On talk radio this morning, some of what was in the new border bill was read over the air. Most conversation in news outlets only talk about the amount of money Trump got for border security.
    They said...Under the new bill waiting for Trumps signature, any illegals who enter into the country with children, or who live in this country with children, or live under the roof of illegals with children CANNOT be deported.
    Local governments will be able to deny any wall construction at their say so in their jurisdiction.
    Under this bill, Trump can employ as many ICE agents as he wants, they will not be allowed to do ICE enforcement, just escort illegals to there new place of residence.
    I have been calling the White House line to urge Trump to veto this bill. I urge you to do the same. Thus far I have been unable to get thru.
     
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  2. xerts1191

    xerts1191 Well-Known Member

    Aug 12, 2017
    C131C6DB-8AC8-4F41-96FD-F6F16B03230F.jpeg Dems will stop at nothing to further their agenda
     

  3. El Perdido

    El Perdido Fictional Western Sage

    Oct 3, 2011
  4. xerts1191

    xerts1191 Well-Known Member

    Aug 12, 2017
    Whitehouse.gov
    Send a message!
     
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  5. azguy1911

    azguy1911 I'm done buying guns, I'm just a bystander now

    Oct 22, 2015
    Would you prefer a government shutdown until election day 2020 ?
     
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  6. CENTURIATOR

    CENTURIATOR Well-Known Member

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    Dec 20, 2018
    The more ominous point I've heard about is that the next Chief Executive may declare a "national emergency" and move to ban/confiscate firearms.

    Something to think about.

    Precedent can be a real B.
     
  7. xerts1191

    xerts1191 Well-Known Member

    Aug 12, 2017
    Here’s how we avoid that
     

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  8. azguy1911

    azguy1911 I'm done buying guns, I'm just a bystander now

    Oct 22, 2015
    Only the mainstream press is making this sound like it's unprecedented, it's been done before.

    Many presidents have declared national emergencies, including George W. Bush after 9/11 and Barack Obama during the swine flu outbreak in 2009. Before Trump's declaration, there were 31 national emergencies active in the United States — his marks the 32nd.
     
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  9. bobo3020

    bobo3020 Well-Known Member

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    Jul 31, 2014
    Appropriations of money is worlds apart from infringement of constitutional rights. Personally I think that is comparing apples and oranges. Nothing but a scare tractics and propaganda.
     
  10. deadguy

    deadguy Charlie Daniels Supporting Addict

    Sep 7, 2011
    Precisely. Can't happen.
     
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  11. deadguy

    deadguy Charlie Daniels Supporting Addict

    Sep 7, 2011
    Precisely. Can't happen.
     
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  12. Usp45ct

    Usp45ct Well-Known Member

    Aug 24, 2012

    Rather than sign this particular bill, yes, yes I would.
     
  13. 7.62Kolectr

    7.62Kolectr On guard

    Jun 6, 2018
    ONLY if it’s a Democrat. But at least Pelosi said what we all know and that is they want to ban all guns and not just scary looking ones. Besides WHO would do such confiscating?
     
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  14. GA 1911

    GA 1911 Colt 1911 Government

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    Feb 6, 2016
    I don't trust the media. I read some of it (probably more than most people in Congress). It is actually seven bills with 1100+ pages (a good novel is 300 pages).

    It has $1.38B in wall funds, 1200 new border agents, new technology for border checks (drones and opioid detection machines), and the usual pork spending.

    **The number of people apprehended at the U.S.-Mexico border, a figure viewed as an indicator of illegal entries, fell to lowest total in 2017 in more than 40 years. 2018 numbers aren't available yet. No one can get that to zero.

    I support the President as he has tried very hard to deliver on his campaign promises. It's just that Congress has its own agenda. We are a Constitutional Republic.

    He has 6 more years to get it right.
     
  15. Babboonbobo

    Babboonbobo Avatar is back to my favorite things!

    Nov 18, 2014
    I heard Nancy spew this bull also, there is a huge difference between a border wall that’s needed to protect American citizens and taking away our constitutional rights! The dems can FU€k off! There liberal crap is starting to bite their own a$$es big time! That Cortez chic is a blessing for republicans and conservatives everywhere!
     

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