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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Olympus, Sep 21, 2020.
This is boring, but he makes good points. I’m a Toyota fan.
Just for fun. 100 horsepower!
Am I the o lot one sickened by the fact that my ideal truck only costed $10000 a few years ago? Jeez. What happened? Now it will cost me $38-50?
I understand. I'm in a very unique position though. I can tint all my windows as dark as I want, take off my cats if I wanted to and pretty much do whatever. No worries about passing inspection. But in saying all that I try to be level headed in whatever changes I make.
I've put 180K miles on my 2015 Tundra and I pull a 8,000 lb cargo trailer. No issues as of yet.
I’m not saying you’re wrong, but I have yet to find anything that supports that. Can you share some sources ?
I would buy the Toyota Tundra. I currently own a 2020 Toyota Tundra TRD Pro. In the past I have owned Chevys and GMCs, all good vehicles. While serving in Afghanistan 2002 - 2003 at various times I drove a Toyota Hilux pickup with right-hand drive, and a Toyota Land Cruiser with Diesel engine. They were high mileage vehicles but always worked in severe conditions. Since then I have owned two Toyota 4Runner Limiteds with excellent reliability and great trade-in value. My oldest son owns a 2019 4Runner TRD Pro, his GF a 2017 Tacoma TRD Off Road, and my youngest son a 2019 Tacoma TRD Off Road.
Domestic automakers employ 2/3 of auto workers in the US. How do you figure they don’t support domestic jobs? All my Ford trucks are out of Dearborn, MI and there are many other Ford plants in Michigan alone, not to mention the rest of the country. To say that they don’t support domestic jobs is a ridiculous statement.
You're so correct. My first new from the factory full size 4x4 was $12,000 +-.
Today you spend $38,000 for a truck and its a turd with crappy tires. $55-$70,000+ for a decent to well equipped 3/4 ton diesel 4X. And for that kind of money you don't even get a tug and a squeeze...Just not right..
Now who’s putting words in someone’s mouth? I said Toyota supports MORE domestic jobs than the other big 3. Never once did I say the big 3 don’t support domestic jobs. I just said Toyota supports more.
As of February of this year, Ford is the largest employer of auto workers in the United States with over 50,000. Toyota is about 30,000.
Why do these threads alway turn into a pissing match?? Let’s discuss trucks, not who is employing who.
I still vote tundra. I bet they don’t use oil like my Chevy or work truck ford. The ford is a 2020, 7.3L gasser. I don’t own it either.
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I wish we could get the Toyotas offered in Africa , Australia the Middle East and The Dominican Republic.
I rode in some Tundra and Tacoma sized, solid front axle, diesel Toyotas in Africa that were awesome.
It's in our blood to be competitive, arguementive.
But getting back to trucks. I'm not a fan boy of any one make. I guess I'm shallow, but looks has always been at the top of the list. Then everything else. Now I pay more attention to quality while still wanting a good looking truck. Except when I got my tundra. Looks took a back seat this time.
In Dec. 2014 it was time for me to get a new truck. My mind was pretty much set on a GMC HD 2500. I was to meet a salesman I know of to show me a GMC. He worked at a Toyota dealership that was part of a large group of different makes. He was busy when I arrived and gave me the keys to a Tundra Platnum to look at until he got free. He had already tried to sell me on a Tundra and I said he was wasting his time. To me the Tundra was butt ugly and I'm still not a big fan of how it looks. So, he got free and when he came out he said get behind the wheel and drive us to the GMC dealership. But we'll take the long way. He's a salesman. It was a very curvy road with hills. This thing didn't drive like all the other trucks. It was tight and very responsive for a truck. We didn't make it to the GMC dealer. I ended up getting a Limited 5.7 with extras besides the standard options. I told him the truck was still ugly as hell but I'll be inside so maybe it won't be too bad. He said it would eventually grow on me. It has somewhat. Now I have my eye on the Ford Super Duty. I'd probably get another Tundra because of how it drives and all but I need more truck. But anyone in the 1500 light duty truck market owes it to themselves to drive the Tundra. Looking at Ford F350's in another window on my PC right now.
Meh,......don’t see anyone pissin, just some spirited conversation
It is better, at least for me. I had a '13 F-150 with the 5.0L, '15 & '17 Silverados with the 5.3L, and currently have a '19 Sierra with the 6.2L and 10-speed trans. I averaged 20+ mpg with the previous (3). The Sierra has a little over 15K miles on it and is averaging 19.8 mpg overall. I haven't reset it since I drove it off the lot. The rolling 400 mile average is 21.6 mpg as of this evening. The best it's been is 22.6. I routinely get 22-24 mpg on the highway. I've touched 26 once. A friend has a Yukon XL with the 6.2. He's told me he gets 22 mpg.
Are these 4wd models?
That’s some great mileage either way.
But, I can’t get my head around a 6.2 getting 22mpg. Maybe if driven 55 on the freeway?
Yep, all 4WD. I usually set the cruise, when I use it, at 72 on the highway. 68 to 72 seems to be the sweet spot. I'll run 57-60 on 2-lane roads around here. I don't tow anything and am a fairly smooth driver. Recommended tire pressure is 36. I run mine at 38.
Wow..... that’s amazing. I’ve always ran tires a few pounds high. A 50% fuel economy improvement is huge. But, the price of new trucks just really kills me.