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Good morning fellow addicts! I recently sold my Valor to a buddy here on the forum and had immediate sellers remorse. Picked up another one last week (NIB; no blem) and upon getting her home to clean her up I noticed a finish flaw underneath the grip panel (pictured). This did not sit well with my obsessive compulsive side, but then my practical side said “it’s a tool for the toolbox; throw the grip panel back on and man up!” I went to town with FP10 and a blue nylon with no luck. It’s definitely embedded within the finish. Paying what I paid for a new Valor, do you gentlemen think that this is grounds for a warranty repair? I hate to be a fussy bitch, but the pistol is otherwise perfect! Shame to start her service off with an imperfection. Your opinions are appreciated.
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If you are the original purchaser you should have no problem getting it fixed.
 
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Yep clouded duty treatment! I’ve seen that many times before! The nitride /duty treat is tough as balls but certain cleaners /oils especially stuff that’s an aerosol can cloud it and ruin it ! If it was my new DW I’d live with it myself but either way it’s an awesome gun !
 

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It's "under" the grip what am I missing ?
 

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@Snwbrdr202 I can appreciate being a bit OCD. With that said, since this is under the grip panel where it is not seen I personally would not worry. As others have said Duty Treat is tough as nails, however the finish of Duty Treat can become clouded with certain cleaning products. This only affects the appears, not the protection Duty Treat provides. With that said, I would put the panel back on and call it day and shoot the snot out of a fine firearm.

Another way of looking at this is this. I would not kick Cindy Crawford out of bed because of that mole on her pretty fact. Sure the mole is considered an imperfection, but it make Cindy who she is, and that is hot.
 

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Wouldn’t hurt to contact DW and discuss. If it came from the factory that way there shouldn’t have been any wrong cleaners used between the shop and the dealer to cloud the DT. You may have a concern that there may be some imperfection UNDER the DT. (Though I’d guess this is not likely - it would have been seen before finish.) At the very least shouldn’t it have sold as a “blem”? (We’ve all seen stories of guys getting discounts on blem guns where the imperfection is barely visible and in some cases couldn’t be found at all.) If it should have been marked as a blem and wasn’t they might offer to swap it out for a ‘clean’ one or maybe some other compensation. (Cash back equal to blem discount? A few mags?)
 

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Sir , you payed hard earned cash for it , if it has imperfections do not hesitate to have them fix it , it will play with your head as long as you own that pistol.
You paid perfect cash , you deserve a perfect pistol.
Damn Czechoslovakians !
 

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That serial number is weird. Is that some kind of special edition Valor?

EDIT: I remember now, the WTU S/N’s were for the special run they did for Kroll.
 

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As it is under the grip, I don't think it would bother me. But, you paid for a non blem new pistol. If it bothers you now, contact DW and see what they say. Heck, I might be tempted to see if I could get a couple of mags and maybe an ejector and some recoil springs for my 'pain and suffering'... That is, if you could live with the defect.

Right before I posted this, a thought came to me. Unless I got some $ or swag from DW and kept it, I would probably want it fixed, just for resale value. I am sure an Addict would disclose said defect, and I would tend to believe them. But, imagine the listing on GB talking about it being a one owner, non blem gun, with a blem under the grip... I would have no problem buying the gun on this sight at a bit below going price, but would shy away from it on GB as a fishy listing. Not accusing ANYONE of dishonesty here, just thinking out loud about possible issues if you decide to sell it in the future.
 

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I appreciate your replies gents. I won’t be disappointed either way, but I’ll send an email and see what they say.
 

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Sir , you payed hard earned cash for it , if it has imperfections do not hesitate to have them fix it , it will play with your head as long as you own that pistol.
You paid perfect cash , you deserve a perfect pistol.
Damn Czechoslovakians !
@tac45 - I will only take 25% offence to your post, as I am 25% Czech. The other 75% agrees with your point.
 

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I get the under the grip argument and the if it was mine I wouldn't worry about it but I paid new, I'd want new and unmolested. I'd contact DW if it was my pistol, also interested in the serial number.
 

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No offense ment my friend, you are an American right. ?
Just poking fun at their parent co.—not yours. :roflmaro:
@tac45 - It's all good! I am a "mutt", 25% Czech, 25% Slovanian, 25% Irish and 25% Italian. Great mix huh! I guess I like to eat and drink in both quantity and quality, not to mention love firearms. However, I am still and always will be 100% AMERICAN, and that's all that matters!
 

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There is away to blend that back in, but it's an ancient Chinese secret and I agree with AZpoolguy tough as nails finish my @$$ I have grown to hate this finish more and more on any gun I own.. Have actually considered selling off some really good shooters because of this finish.. I want to be able to clean my gun not handle it with kids gloves.. As much as I Love Dan Wessons, I'd really like to see them change their Duty Treat Finish to something a bit more practical.. There is a way to get the cloudiness out with heat and WD 40 or some other type of oil. CLP etc, but you run the risk of lightening the whole finish in the process to even it all back out. As the only way to completely remove and get back to 1000% normal is to have the entire frame re-done which means another heavy heat treating process, you can only heat and cool down metal so many times before it gets brittle..
 
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