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Discussion in 'General 1911 talk' started by Porterhouse83, Mar 11, 2012.
What are some 1911s to stay away from?
As of today I've shot 3 new Paras, all had issues.
The worst I have owned was a recent acquisition. A 2011 production Colt 1991 Commander. Complete turd. One problem after another.
2009 DW CCO.
Ask me no questions and I will tell you no lies.
I had a colt officers model. It was absolutely a jammo-matic. Never got through 1 mag without some type of malfunction. Bought and sold for $300. funny.
My all-time worst was an original AMT Hardballer. Bought brand-new in the late 80s, horrible execution, non-standard pin sizes/locations.
My worst one was a Peter Stahl PSP 87 that I owned back in Denmark in 89. My friend Alex found over 15 flaws on it, 5 of them being major flaws. It never shot more than 1-3 rds. without jamming up.
As much as I hate to say this, I have basically found this rule of thumb to hold water!
Any 1911 costing less than $2500 these days, is kind of a "jack in the box" gun. Sadly many guns are made up to be look a like 1911 custom guns, and others are assembly line made, with very little quality control involved...if any at all. I have not yet seen any 1911 costing less than $2.500 that did not need further work/adjusting, before it could be trusted for serious work.
Unfortunately most 1911 owners, are not able to evaluate their new pistol properly, or rarely shoot it etc. and therefor they think they got what they paid for.
Wasn't happy about saying this, but trust me, if you ask someone inside the high end 1911 industry, they will sadly say the same...and I know a bunch of them.
Had a LLama back in the mid-80's I picked up on a horse trade when I had a shop, POS from day one. Glad I gave next to nothing for it and dumped it accordingly after one range(I mean Jam) session.
I've never owned a crappy 1911. My very first, a Norinco, had alot of issues running HP ammo, which didn't concern me too much, as I carried a .40 everyday then. But other than that, all of my 1911's have been great right out of the box. :nod:
HAHAHAHA! Don't you know that a Llama isn't a 1911!? It's a South American camelid silly, it's they're animals! HAHAHA! :animlol:
So para ordnance needs to be stayed away from. Anyone have any input on Argentina made 1911s.
P House, if you're referring to the old Argentine built Colt copies from years ago, they were as good (or better) than any military production built here in the states. The example I owned was stolen, unfortunately.
I don't believe there are any modern production guns coming from Argentina now though.
I forgot Joe:frusty:
Yes I am thinking of the ones made in the 20s. Friend of mine just got one from his dad for getting his masters in engineering. Though it's old it's very nice.
Also means "flame". Funny if they were named after pack animals, though.
I'm with Glock2740 on my 1911s. My Norinco, though it had a front sight milled on left of center, was a good shooter. All of my other 1911s ran great.
Fortunate to have never owned a bad one but seen some terrible stuff with AMT hardballer and Springfields 3" GI Micro.
My first 1911 was a Taurus. I bought it brand new and the rear end of the extractor broke off on the 3rd shot and hit me above my left eye. I had it repaired under warranty and it performed flawlessly. A couple months later I sold it and bought a Springfield and never looked back. I wouldn't buy a Taurus again, but I would definitely take it as a free gift.
Couple years ago I bought a RIA entry level 38Super, then a couple weeks later a Springfield Armory entry level 45. The RIA is a favorite shooter (especially after Joe C. put some kick ass sights on it). The Springfield was a total POS. Horrible trigger, rough finished, found it a new home after about a month.
That was my only experience with Springfield Armory, and probably my last.