WW2 Remington Rand with questionable marks on trigger guard

That gun(or just the frame) is re-imported into the US by CAI, St. Albans, VT.
Century Arms International
Not an original WW II vet bring back.

 

Jmv is right that CAI is an import stamp. That frame was brought back into the country after 1968.

Not sure what you’re asking. Legit as far as what? The serial number is RR made in 1943. Other proof marks look correct. It was not a vet bring back gun since it has the CAI import stamp. CAI is the import company in St. Albans,VT. I believe import marks started in 1968. It could of been a lend lease pistol.

Is the seller a legit dealer? Any dealer,FFL, should know that is an import mark.

 

I'm not an expert on these guns, and defer to every one else.

Having said that, I believe your gun was produced by Rem-Ran in 1943 and is an authentic WWII 1911. I think the previous poster meant the gun did not come home with a soldier, not that it wasn't a genuine WWII gun. The "H" that you refer to is just an over stamp of FJA, the initials of the inspector during that time period. The Century Arms importation stamps were applied to the gun when it was brought back into the US from a foreign country. A large number of WWII mil-guns were sold to foreign powers after the war, and eventually re-imported to the US years later. I cant recall where I read it, but I think a lot of 1911s went to Israel after the war.

Best,
C

 

How much did you pay for it?

 

The acceptance stamp (FJA) was applied by hand and a die bounce was common, showing just a partial mark of the left side. The partial F looks like an H.

I wouldn't be happy with the import marking which I am betting the seller knew what it was. Too high for import marked Remington Rand.

 

Should have a Hi Standard barrel.
HS stamped on 1 side of lug and P on other side of lug.

 

If the seller did not disclose this aspect of the 1911 and claimed it was a Veteran bring-back, well, he pulled a fast one over on you, or maybe, and this is the best construction, he didn't know either.

CMP is selling these now for $1000 or so.

 

I'm not an expert on these guns, and defer to everyone else!

Depending on why you bought the gun I don't think you got hurt too badly at $1900, but less is always better . Anyway, the market on military 1911s has been climbing steadily, and I suppose that's because they aren't making them anymore? I've seen them in very poor condition go for about 1K on GB over the last year. The import marks don't enhance the value, but if the gun is otherwise correct it's certainly better than a mix-master, IMHO anyway. The later Rem-Rans that I've had were equal to Colt in quality, and if you're planning on shooting it you don't want a collector grade gun anyway, right?

I will offer you a suggestion that was given to me by an esteemed 1911 collector, and was singly the best advice I got when it comes to these mil-guns - Get a copy of Charles Clawson's book (he wrote one for mil-guns and one for commercial guns). It's a worthwhile investment if you're thinking about collecting military 1911s. It takes most of the mystery out of them, is easy to digest, and may save you from an expensive mistake.

Best,
C

 

I don't believe the Clawson book covers import marked pistols. Personally, I have not seen the price of import marked pistols climbing steadily. I guess if you keep it what you paid doesn't really matter; just when you try to sell it that it hurts.

 

The gun looks to be in pretty good shape and original. If you’re going to use it as a shooter it’s a good gun. You may of overpaid a little, but you could chalk that up to an education. You’re learning a lot about m1911.

As for you not being able to buy a truly collectible 1911, I think you’re wrong. For 1500-2k you can get a good condition WWII bring back. My lgs has a very good condition 1942 manufactured, listed for 2400.

There are deals to be had and sometimes we overpay. I’m sure almost everyone reading this thread has overpaid for a gun because we really wanted it or didn’t know exactly what we were buying. I don’t think the gun pictured above is worth more than 1500 and it should probably be a little less than that. Besides just having an import mark, it’s double stamped and ugly on a beautiful gun.

Go shoot the hell out of it. Maybe you have the best shooter that’s very accurate. Good luck with it.

 

Everything evens out, some day you'll find a killer deal or two and it will all balance out. You know, at the end of the day, it's just money. And it's not a real crisis (so, sure you are PO-ed, but ...) ... you have a nice old warhorse there with stories that could be told.

 

Centuriator nailed it with his comment.

I'm a newb to these guns, as I've only owned a couple of dozen of them, but I can honestly say this - everybody has paid a little more than they should have for one. Everybody.

You have a great shooter with history you can be proud of, so take it to the range and shoot the daylights out of it!

Best,
C

P.S. Buy Clawson's book. Down the road you'll be glad you did.