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A Weekend with Ken Hackathorn in beautiful Idaho. PART 2

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#1 ·
There was a resounding call for a deeper dive into the weekend I had with my good buddy Ken Hackathorn, so ever a man of the people, here's a "part two" if you will.

Hack was convinced that I needed to broaden my horizons past the venerable .45 ACP, offering me a smorgasbord of various small arms to try out. These ranged from Beretta Jaguars to 10mm Colt's Single Action Army revolvers- and so much in between.

Ken Hackathorn's hero was a man named Charlie Gillis, a neighbor of his from "back home" in Ohio. Charlie was a WW2 veteran and one of the first examples of a "gun guy" that Hack was exposed to. When Colt rereleased their famous Single Action Army in 1956, Charlie was among the first to seek out and purchase one. He was a "5.5in" guy (referring to his preferred SAA barrel length). Hack told me stories of how he begged Charlie to "go shoot the cowboy gun" as a child until the day Charlie replied with an "okay". Hack's, much like my first experience shooting a real Colt SAA, was nothing short of a damn good time. I was so honored that Hack would have me shoot his hero's gun while I was visiting him, as this gun was effectively leaving it's mark on now a third generation of "gun guy".
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Moving from revolvers back to automatics, I was really pleased to get to try out one of Hack's more "used" guns- his Wilson Combat "Swenson Tribute" Commander. Unfortunately, it was just a 9mm... unfortunate because of how much I loved shooting it. The gun was a one-off built by the old Supergrade shop with a JEM square-guard frame and a "Hackathorn Special" slide.
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Keeping with the theme of automatics for a moment, Hack was INSISTENT that I spend some time on the SIG P210. Now, I "like" the P210, but as with many Euro-Simp guns, I really just wrote it off as, "Well, it's not a 1911, so I don't care". H. O. L. Y. S#*T was I WRONG. While Hack had a plethora of vintage P210s, he was convinced the newer, American ones were "just as good". Having no experience with a vintage one, I can only report that these new P210s... are incredible. Fit and finish are legitimately superb (considering the price point), the trigger was phenomenal, and the shooting experience was a whole lot of brass flying through a laugher-infused atmosphere.
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In the spirit of good, fun competition, Hack proposed that he and I have a shoot a few drills against one another using revolvers. I don't think I need to tell you how that went for me, but I had a good time getting my ass whooped. Two revolvers, a Smith and Wesson Model 27 (3.5in barrel) and a new Colt Python (3in barrel) were presented. We'd shoot the drill then switch guns. While I didn't do very hot with either compared to Hack, the Model 27 was, understandably, much more pleasant to shoot. I also prefer the way a Smith and Wesson trigger pulls through, over the "stacking" of a Colt. One major difference was in the sights. With the red ramped S&W, I tend to shoot a little high, compared to the Wilson Combat bead sight that was affixed to the Python. More than likely, that stems back to my familiarity with automatics.
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With that, gentlemen, I think I will draw "part two" to a close. I will leave you with this epic picture of Hack with his Mini-14, sporting a new Samson folding stock I got him as a "thank you" gift earlier this year. If you'd like a "part three", let me know, I still have plenty of pictures and stories from this trip.
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#9 · (Edited)
Another enjoyable read. Thank you for posting Eli. We want a 3, 4, 5....

I've been friends with Ken since I took my first of many classes with him in 1981. Right before he moved to Idaho, several of us met Ken at Fort Harmar gun club and had a goodbye shoot with him that was very similar to what you did. Ken is a walking encyclopedia of gun knowledge! I've learned so much from him over the decades.
 
#16 ·
I've told folks for years that Charlie Gillis was the grandfather that every gun guy should have had.
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Fort Harmar Rifle Club poster
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Charlies' Full House Hoag pistol that Ken had built for him in 1976. The gun now graces our TV cabinet in the gun room.
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#19 ·
There was a resounding call for a deeper dive into the weekend I had with my good buddy Ken Hackathorn, so ever a man of the people, here's a "part two" if you will.

Hack was convinced that I needed to broaden my horizons past the venerable .45 ACP, offering me a smorgasbord of various small arms to try out. These ranged from Beretta Jaguars to 10mm Colt's Single Action Army revolvers- and so much in between.

Ken Hackathorn's hero was a man named Charlie Gillis, a neighbor of his from "back home" in Ohio. Charlie was a WW2 veteran and one of the first examples of a "gun guy" that Hack was exposed to. When Colt rereleased their famous Single Action Army in 1956, Charlie was among the first to seek out and purchase one. He was a "5.5in" guy (referring to his preferred SAA barrel length). Hack told me stories of how he begged Charlie to "go shoot the cowboy gun" as a child until the day Charlie replied with an "okay". Hack's, much like my first experience shooting a real Colt SAA, was nothing short of a damn good time. I was so honored that Hack would have me shoot his hero's gun while I was visiting him, as this gun was effectively leaving it's mark on now a third generation of "gun guy".
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Moving from revolvers back to automatics, I was really pleased to get to try out one of Hack's more "used" guns- his Wilson Combat "Swenson Tribute" Commander. Unfortunately, it was just a 9mm... unfortunate because of how much I loved shooting it. The gun was a one-off built by the old Supergrade shop with a JEM square-guard frame and a "Hackathorn Special" slide.
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Keeping with the theme of automatics for a moment, Hack was INSISTENT that I spend some time on the SIG P210. Now, I "like" the P210, but as with many Euro-Simp guns, I really just wrote it off as, "Well, it's not a 1911, so I don't care". H. O. L. Y. S#*T was I WRONG. While Hack had a plethora of vintage P210s, he was convinced the newer, American ones were "just as good". Having no experience with a vintage one, I can only report that these new P210s... are incredible. Fit and finish are legitimately superb (considering the price point), the trigger was phenomenal, and the shooting experience was a whole lot of brass flying through a laugher-infused atmosphere.
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In the spirit of good, fun competition, Hack proposed that he and I have a shoot a few drills against one another using revolvers. I don't think I need to tell you how that went for me, but I had a good time getting my ass whooped. Two revolvers, a Smith and Wesson Model 27 (3.5in barrel) and a new Colt Python (3in barrel) were presented. We'd shoot the drill then switch guns. While I didn't do very hot with either compared to Hack, the Model 27 was, understandably, much more pleasant to shoot. I also prefer the way a Smith and Wesson trigger pulls through, over the "stacking" of a Colt. One major difference was in the sights. With the red ramped S&W, I tend to shoot a little high, compared to the Wilson Combat bead sight that was affixed to the Python. More than likely, that stems back to my familiarity with automatics.
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With that, gentlemen, I think I will draw "part two" to a close. I will leave you with this epic picture of Hack with his Mini-14, sporting a new Samson folding stock I got him as a "thank you" gift earlier this year. If you'd like a "part three", let me know, I still have plenty of pictures and stories from this trip.
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Dismiss him as a Fudd if your fool rear end will, but that “Fudd” with that rifle and that wheel gun, will smoke check a tango in an Idaho split second. Long live Mr. Hack, and definitely a part 3&4, plus more videos on this on 1776 Duck channel.
 
#21 ·
The man
 
#23 ·
There was a resounding call for a deeper dive into the weekend I had with my good buddy Ken Hackathorn, so ever a man of the people, here's a "part two" if you will.

Hack was convinced that I needed to broaden my horizons past the venerable .45 ACP, offering me a smorgasbord of various small arms to try out. These ranged from Beretta Jaguars to 10mm Colt's Single Action Army revolvers- and so much in between.

Ken Hackathorn's hero was a man named Charlie Gillis, a neighbor of his from "back home" in Ohio. Charlie was a WW2 veteran and one of the first examples of a "gun guy" that Hack was exposed to. When Colt rereleased their famous Single Action Army in 1956, Charlie was among the first to seek out and purchase one. He was a "5.5in" guy (referring to his preferred SAA barrel length). Hack told me stories of how he begged Charlie to "go shoot the cowboy gun" as a child until the day Charlie replied with an "okay". Hack's, much like my first experience shooting a real Colt SAA, was nothing short of a damn good time. I was so honored that Hack would have me shoot his hero's gun while I was visiting him, as this gun was effectively leaving it's mark on now a third generation of "gun guy".
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Moving from revolvers back to automatics, I was really pleased to get to try out one of Hack's more "used" guns- his Wilson Combat "Swenson Tribute" Commander. Unfortunately, it was just a 9mm... unfortunate because of how much I loved shooting it. The gun was a one-off built by the old Supergrade shop with a JEM square-guard frame and a "Hackathorn Special" slide.
View attachment 1624026

Keeping with the theme of automatics for a moment, Hack was INSISTENT that I spend some time on the SIG P210. Now, I "like" the P210, but as with many Euro-Simp guns, I really just wrote it off as, "Well, it's not a 1911, so I don't care". H. O. L. Y. S#*T was I WRONG. While Hack had a plethora of vintage P210s, he was convinced the newer, American ones were "just as good". Having no experience with a vintage one, I can only report that these new P210s... are incredible. Fit and finish are legitimately superb (considering the price point), the trigger was phenomenal, and the shooting experience was a whole lot of brass flying through a laugher-infused atmosphere.
View attachment 1624028

In the spirit of good, fun competition, Hack proposed that he and I have a shoot a few drills against one another using revolvers. I don't think I need to tell you how that went for me, but I had a good time getting my ass whooped. Two revolvers, a Smith and Wesson Model 27 (3.5in barrel) and a new Colt Python (3in barrel) were presented. We'd shoot the drill then switch guns. While I didn't do very hot with either compared to Hack, the Model 27 was, understandably, much more pleasant to shoot. I also prefer the way a Smith and Wesson trigger pulls through, over the "stacking" of a Colt. One major difference was in the sights. With the red ramped S&W, I tend to shoot a little high, compared to the Wilson Combat bead sight that was affixed to the Python. More than likely, that stems back to my familiarity with automatics.
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With that, gentlemen, I think I will draw "part two" to a close. I will leave you with this epic picture of Hack with his Mini-14, sporting a new Samson folding stock I got him as a "thank you" gift earlier this year. If you'd like a "part three", let me know, I still have plenty of pictures and stories from this trip.
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Looking forward to part 3...... and many more Eli. Idaho looks beautiful,and sure Ken and yourself had a "blast" shooting those firearms.{Know blast a little corney,but what the heck,sometimes you have to break the rules.
 
#25 ·
There was a resounding call for a deeper dive into the weekend I had with my good buddy Ken Hackathorn, so ever a man of the people, here's a "part two" if you will.

Hack was convinced that I needed to broaden my horizons past the venerable .45 ACP, offering me a smorgasbord of various small arms to try out. These ranged from Beretta Jaguars to 10mm Colt's Single Action Army revolvers- and so much in between.

Ken Hackathorn's hero was a man named Charlie Gillis, a neighbor of his from "back home" in Ohio. Charlie was a WW2 veteran and one of the first examples of a "gun guy" that Hack was exposed to. When Colt rereleased their famous Single Action Army in 1956, Charlie was among the first to seek out and purchase one. He was a "5.5in" guy (referring to his preferred SAA barrel length). Hack told me stories of how he begged Charlie to "go shoot the cowboy gun" as a child until the day Charlie replied with an "okay". Hack's, much like my first experience shooting a real Colt SAA, was nothing short of a damn good time. I was so honored that Hack would have me shoot his hero's gun while I was visiting him, as this gun was effectively leaving it's mark on now a third generation of "gun guy".
View attachment 1624025

Moving from revolvers back to automatics, I was really pleased to get to try out one of Hack's more "used" guns- his Wilson Combat "Swenson Tribute" Commander. Unfortunately, it was just a 9mm... unfortunate because of how much I loved shooting it. The gun was a one-off built by the old Supergrade shop with a JEM square-guard frame and a "Hackathorn Special" slide.
View attachment 1624026

Keeping with the theme of automatics for a moment, Hack was INSISTENT that I spend some time on the SIG P210. Now, I "like" the P210, but as with many Euro-Simp guns, I really just wrote it off as, "Well, it's not a 1911, so I don't care". H. O. L. Y. S#*T was I WRONG. While Hack had a plethora of vintage P210s, he was convinced the newer, American ones were "just as good". Having no experience with a vintage one, I can only report that these new P210s... are incredible. Fit and finish are legitimately superb (considering the price point), the trigger was phenomenal, and the shooting experience was a whole lot of brass flying through a laugher-infused atmosphere.
View attachment 1624028

In the spirit of good, fun competition, Hack proposed that he and I have a shoot a few drills against one another using revolvers. I don't think I need to tell you how that went for me, but I had a good time getting my ass whooped. Two revolvers, a Smith and Wesson Model 27 (3.5in barrel) and a new Colt Python (3in barrel) were presented. We'd shoot the drill then switch guns. While I didn't do very hot with either compared to Hack, the Model 27 was, understandably, much more pleasant to shoot. I also prefer the way a Smith and Wesson trigger pulls through, over the "stacking" of a Colt. One major difference was in the sights. With the red ramped S&W, I tend to shoot a little high, compared to the Wilson Combat bead sight that was affixed to the Python. More than likely, that stems back to my familiarity with automatics.
View attachment 1624029

With that, gentlemen, I think I will draw "part two" to a close. I will leave you with this epic picture of Hack with his Mini-14, sporting a new Samson folding stock I got him as a "thank you" gift earlier this year. If you'd like a "part three", let me know, I still have plenty of pictures and stories from this trip.
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Great write-up, great guns and great Magnum P.I. watch!
 
#26 ·
Super cool that you have grown into a "gun guy" that gets to travel and speak with and shoot with some legends of the handgunning world! Did you ever imagine that, when you were buying your first 1911 and obsessing over the next one?

Keep the pics and stories coming!