I got the 507C green dot and the Dawson plate thru Staccato. Love it. You can likely get it cheaper as it looks like the prices have popped like everything else but I couldn't be happier with the plate or sight. GL

 

just ordered 508 x2 red and dawson plate.

 

I was debating the same thing. I’ve also decided to go with the dawson plate. Although I would like the RDS as low as possible, the possible quality control issues with C&H and having to change my front sight has swayed me to dawson.

 

I know Hilton Yam (10-8 performance) is a big fan of the C&H, & makes the correct height front site when using those plates/rear sight combo's. But it could also be because he sells the front sights for these plates and has a vested interest?

I currently have an older DUO P that has the taller Dawson plate and taller front sight. I decided to go with the C&H over the newer DPO plate as I wanted something even lower. The biggest issue I had with the DUO was the front sight was so tall, it limited my holster selection. As the sight channel on most holsters won't accommodate the taller front. I haven't had this issue with the DPO plate/front combo on my C2. But I did want to try the lower plate from C&H. It won't be here until next week, so I can't comment on durability.

 

I currently have an older DUO P that has the taller Dawson plate and taller front sight. I decided to go with the C&H over the newer DPO plate as I wanted something even lower. The biggest issue I had with the DUO was the front sight was so tall, it limited my holster selection. As the sight channel on most holsters won't accommodate the taller front. I haven't had this issue with the DPO plate/front combo on my C2. But I did want to try the lower plate from C&H. It won't be here until next week, so I can't comment on durability.

I would probably avoid the previous-gen CHPWS plates that only used a single screw to secure the plate to the slide. However, their later / current-gen (V4) plates use 3 screws to secure the plates and are rock solid, IME (I own 3). I also prefer the lower height / lower front sight combo, as well as the one-piece (10-8 designed) rear sight.

That said, Dawson plates are solid as well. The only things I don't care for are the added height and their use of a dove-tailed rear sight that is secured by a set-screw. I had one on my P DPO that came loose and flew off. The one on my older C2 DUO has been solid with no issues though, as have been the others I've previously owned. YMMV...

 

am I understanding this correctly, if one chooses the CHPWS plate you also have to change the front sight?

 

Yep, you would need a .195" front sight to retain the POA/POI of the factory irons when using the CHPWS RMR/508 plate
(the factory tac-height front sight is .285").

 

I like the Dawson plates so far. The new rear sights are kind of weird until you understand how to adjust them properly. Not sure why they made the change.

 

My issue with the CH plate was that it doesn't have the two indext notches. Even the newer version with the 3 screws. I didn't use Loctite but did torque all three screws to a point I was worried they would strip. And without fail it would become loose Within 100 rds. Did the same thing with the Dawson and it worked fine. Later that day picked up Loctite but I only tried Loctite on the dp plate. Hasn't given me a few so there's that.

I would feel comfortable running the CH plate with red loctite.

 

Both Dawson & CH recommend loctite.

 

Here's my 10-8 Front I just added to my P. Sits nice and low.

 

Here's my 10-8 Front I just added to my P. Sits nice and low.

is the rear sight serrated on yours? Seems like one of the numerous complaints is it was shown serrated but when they got it it wasn't. I ordered the Dawson but I might go ahead and order the CH version too.

 

I was worried more about the heads on the screws then the threads on the reciver. They are very small. Iirc torx 7?

 

but it isn't there on this picture, also different part#s what's funny about this is 2 pictures from same seller of the item for sale?????

 

Mine should be coming today. I'll take some photos next to my older/thicker DUO plate.

 

Yeah I just ordered directly from them 2 weeks ago and those tabs weren't on there. It seems like it would definitely take a lot of load off of the screws.

 

The front tabs were present on the previous version. They were removed on the re-designed (current) version, which now has 3 screws holding the plate to the slide instead of just one.

 

I got my CH in today. Below are some comparisons with the older thicker DUO plate. If you want light weight and a lower profile, the CH is the way to go. If you want heavier and what seems more solid, the Dawson is what I recommend.

The CH rear is serrated (on mine at least), but it's very shallow. And your sight picture only shows about 2/3 of the fiber optic if using the recommended 10-8 front sight. The package only came with 1 set of optic mounting screws. Not 2 (RMR & Holosun) like the website shows. And it's also packaged differently.

If I had to chose one as the winner, I'd probably stick with Dawson.

Staccato C2 with newest DPO optic plate for comparison.

 

If I had to chose one as the winner, I'd probably stick with Dawson.

Based on these pics I’d prefer the CHPWS
1. RDS sits lower
2. BUIS sit lower, but usable. Less field of view obstruction
3. More thread engagement. I dig their thread post.

 

Thank you for that comparison, would love to see same thing with newer Dawson plates.

 

What "shaky QC issues"?

CHPWS is good to go.

If you want low witness irons and a slightly lower optic go C&H. If you want to run stock co-witness irons go Dawson. Both are reliable mounting systems.

 

What "shaky QC issues"?

CHPWS is good to go.

If you want low witness irons and a slightly lower optic go C&H. If you want to run stock co-witness irons go Dawson. Both are reliable mounting systems.

Owner of chpws was on the pistol forum apologizing profusely for the frustration people were experiencing. He apologized and said he cleaned house. That tells me there truly was a problem.

 

Interesting indeed. I’m not one to review other’s post history but if you’ve got something to say go ahead and say it.

 

Another scenario that comes to mind is if you ever have a plate/slide issue. Maybe a stripped screw hole on the slide? I'm not sure how Staccato would handle a warranty issue with their plate vs. the CH?

 

Not sure but after hearing enough about CH on other forums from people who have issues with their products and services, occurring long after the owner publicly apologized and said he is fixing the problems, I’ll stick with Dawson Precision and Forward Control Design.

 

Didn’t have a greatest experience with CHPWS.

In addition to the plate, I had to purchase separately longer screws. When it arrived, it shipped with the regular, shorter screws. Contacted them, they apologized and said they‘d send the correct screws ASAP. Been close to a month now.

I‘ve long since sourced the correct length screws from McMaster.

 

Forward control design, might have to look them up.

 

That's what I run on my Glock, but I don't think they are doing Staccato yet?

 

Forward Controls or Dawson.

 

No FC for staccato yet

 

Supposed to be in the works and until then I’d go with dawson.

 

I do not know what the problems supposedly "were" with chpws but I do know this for sure. I received my my Dawson Precision 508t mount today which turns out it was a day late because the package got demolished by the USPS. I took a few pictures and sent them to dawson. In less than 5 minutes there was a reply from them "please verify your address and we will send another one to you, sorry"

That is customer service at it's finest. Thank you Dawson. I have the chpws mount from elusive coming to do my own little comparison but with service like that from dawson pretty sure the chpws mount will be listed as soon as it arrives.

thanks again Dawson Precision.

 

I can tell you I reached out to CHWPS to get a set of replacement mounting screws for an RMRcc and three weeks later, two shipments, photos and many emails, I ordered the screws elsewhere.

 

And in 10 minutes, here is your order. WAAAAY to go Dawson Precision.

 

No pictures taken but I have both of these sitting here. Amazing how much thinner the C&H is than the revised Dawson. If it wasn't for having to replace the front sight I'd give it a try. Next observation is that I much prefer the C&H rear sights sight picture. Before anyone correctly points out that these are back up sights and it shouldn't matter, well little things become big things in my crazy head. Due to the bigger cutaway and thinner blade the sight picture is much clearer behind the CH. My eye sees the left side of the Dawson notch clearer but the right side of the notch looks canted on all 4 of the Dawson rear sights I've looked through. In Dawson's favor the rear sight is easily adjustable for windage wear you're going to have to drift the front sight on the CH. Now if the stinking 508t would show up.

 

Now I absolutely love the trijicon HD sights I have on my glock. If I could get one the right height to use with the C&H plate I'd do that in a heartbeat.

 

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