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Durability of Nickel Plating?

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#1 ·
My understanding (internet) is polished nickel is one process and matte nickel a different process. That being "electroless" for the dull finish and "electrolysis" for the bright finish. Is this accurate or dated info? Is the dull finish durable enough for the average user who cares for but doesn't baby the 1911? Must special care be taken when cleaning the matte nickel finish? The reason I ask is I'm looking at two different manufacturers 1911s, one in the matte nickel (basic G.I. Rock Island) and the stainless Springfield Mil-Spec. Cost difference is 100.00 (542.00 / 642.00). I realize most folks would opt for the SA, however, I like my Rocks just fine and the Rock has the standard low profile sights which I greatly prefer. There are other considerations however this is my basic one currently. I'm just curious as to the Rock's matte nickel finish being worth a hoot or if I see one, run and don't look back. Thanks.
 
#4 ·
I have a RIA new unfired. Feels good, fit and finish is as good as one could expect in this price range (pretty damn good) My only issue is not so much the mil spec sights as the fact they're nickel also. Unless you got vision of a chicken hawk, they'll disappear in many sighting situations.

Personally wouldn't piss in the rain with a new slicker on for a new entry level Springfield though.

Bob
 
#5 ·
I have a RIA new unfired. Feels good, fit and finish is as good as one could expect in this price range (pretty damn good) My only issue is not so much the mil spec sights as the fact they're nickel also. Unless you got vision of a chicken hawk, they'll disappear in many sighting situations.

Personally wouldn't piss in the rain with a new slicker on for a new entry level Springfield though.

Bob
Thanks. That's good because I'm one of those weirdos who prefers no sights and am fortunate enough to still have 20/10 vision. I can deal with about any rear sight if I must but the billboard size fronts drive me insane. With that said, my machinist / gunsmith neighbor has told me many time he could make blanks for the slides with dovetail and plug fronts if not using a dovetail type sight. I don't know much about SAs other than the G.I. I had long ago was less than accurate. The used Ultra Compact I have is excellent. I do find they too, like RIA, have good customer service (normally). I like opinions. Thanks again.
 
#9 ·
Nickel is very prone to flaking/peeling and allowing corrosion to propogate. Do not use harsh cleaners like Hoppes #9 it will peel nickel in no time.

Hard chrome is a much better idea than nickel.
That's good to know, with my industrial experience I possibly would have picked nickel. I learned something today. I always learn something everyday so that is today's lesson.
 
#11 ·
Hmmm...Nickel has been used for a long time on firearms to prevent corrosion with good results. This was an option in the old days that was better than bluing. But, it does wear off over time.

If you want to step up into the 21st century you might want to check out Robars NP3+ finish. https://robarguns.com/custom-firearm-finishes/np3-plus/ I can't say that this won't eventually wear off, but it is some very tough battle proven stuff.
 
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#18 ·
My only real experience is Sig Sauer satin nickel.
It is very tough, and Sig uses it for salt water proximity weapons. Also Sig Germany used it for LE.
I had a LE P-220 and a salt water contract P-229.
Evidently must have improved the corrosion thing.

Star used a Starvel nickel finish that peeled, flaked, and I don't know about corrosion.
Sig nickel is very good, and my bet is Rock uses someone with a good track record for the finish.

Any finish that gets carried is going to wear though.
 
#21 ·
Sig nickel is very good, and my bet is Rock uses someone with a good track record for the finish.

Any finish that gets carried is going to wear though.
That Sig's internals are phosphate coated, barrel is hard chromed, frame is annodized, slide is Nitron over stainless.

No nickel to be found on a modern Sig. A few models were available with satin slides, but the salt water contract models and the Navy models used hard chrome, not nickel.
 
#28 ·
"Custom Nitron Nickel Coated" Over stainless steel. I'd bet a Benjamin that's a lot closer to NP3 than it is electroless.

And as far as firearms over 30 years old,,,,I have a Remington Rand that's probably double that, and been hard chromed for the past 30. I'd put it's reliability, accuracy, and overall badassness to the test against your Sigs any day.:cool2:

Bob
 
#29 ·
I'm all done. Checked my options to include cerakoting one of my current Rocks. Late last night I cruised GB and there was a new matte nickel w/ a starting bid of 418.00 / buy it now of 435.00. I entered 425.00 and got it for 418.00 + 35.00 shipping. Not bad. Crap, though with free shipping, the same model at Bud's, with LEO and others discount is 543.00. Normally for me, Bud's is hard to match. Thanks for your input.