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#41 ·
Looks interesting. I'd probably buy one if the grip didn't look so heinously fat.
 
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Douglee25 said:
Guessing the bottom one works better??
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Yes. The Girsan is somehow out of spec. Both pics are with a Dawson mag release installed. Note how little the shelf protrudes into the mag well in the top pic.

As mentioned earlier, my sample works fine with Atlas mags but factory Staccato mags and my tuned Check-Mate mags will not catch on the mag release shelf. I thought it possibly was the mag catch itself so I replaced the Girsan part with a Dawson. It didn't make any difference. Interestingly the mag release from my Prodigy works better and would seem to properly retain mags but the external profile doesn't match the frame contour.

I guess the only real remedy is to put on a Gen 1 STI or MJD grip. Or file the aluminum to accept a Gen 2 Staccato frame.

Something else I note regarding the Girsan (did I post this already?) is that the screw holes that mate with the bushings are not reinforced. There are no metal pieces molded in. The Girsan is 100% plastic.
 
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I didn't like the RMSc / Holosun K footprint. More correctly, I didn't like the lack of a usable rear sight. Had Girsan thought to cut a small dovetail into the slide for something like a Glock rear sight I probably would have happily run a Holosun EPS on here and been done with it.

Anyway C&H was running a Black Friday special so I sent the slide in to have it machined for the Cross Plate system and have a Holosun 509 plate installed. It came back yesterday. I think it looks good. Of course now I'll need a taller front sight.

One issue that came up was that the original Girsan mounting holes were in the way of the new C&H holes. As a result the tech who did the install had to move the plate back a few thousandths. He called me to discuss this before doing the work. He said I'd lose the back ledge that usually is machined behind the mounting plate but he didn't think it would cause any problems.

Overall I think it looks pretty good.

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Tokarev said:
I didn't like the RMSc / Holosun K footprint. More correctly, I didn't like the lack of a usable rear sight. Had Girsan thought to cut a small dovetail into the slide for something like a Glock rear sight I probably would have happily run a Holosun EPS on here and been done with it.

Anyway C&H was running a Black Friday special so I sent the slide in to have it machined for the Cross Plate system and have a Holosun 509 plate installed. It came back yesterday. I think it looks good. Of course now I'll need a taller front sight.

One issue that came up was that the original Girsan mounting holes were in the way of the new C&H holes. As a result the tech who did the install had to move the plate back a few thousandths. He called me to discuss this before doing the work. He said I'd lose the back ledge that usually is machined behind the mounting plate but he didn't think it would cause any problems.

Overall I think it looks pretty good.

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Tokarev said:
I picked this up recently. So far I like the pistol even though it has some oddball specs.

The gun looks nice and seems to be of decent quality. Frame to slide fit is snug but average in this regard. The barrel has a little play and there's about .004" play between the barrel and bushing and then the bushing and slide. The gun appears to be a Commander but is actually a chopped Government Model. The bushing is shortened to work and the gun has a full one piece guide rod. The spring is flat wire at what I'm guessing is fourteen pounds.

The trigger is fairly crisp at five pounds. There is no provision to adjust over travel. The safety is ambi and is fairly crisp with just a bit of float when disengaged. The slide stop is basic 1911 with a .199 pin. Curiously Girsan uses a Commander slide catch notch on a Government stroke gun.

Oddball are the light rail. The grooves are too narrow to accept 1913 accessories. The rail is also a bit thicker than usual which may cause some holster fitment issues. The gun is optic ready and cut for the RMSc with no provision for a back up rear sight. And then the extractor is a weird non-standard diameter of .234" instead of the usual .270" or so.

I am only 228 rounds in but the gun appears to want to run. It ejects without a mag in place and seems to want to feed JHP. So we're off to a good start.

I like the fact that it has an aluminum frame. This makes the gun a bit lighter than some other options. Prices are currently running about $875 which doesn't seem great when the Prodigy is running $1150 or so and includes an extra mag. If and when the 2311 drops to $750ish these may be a solid value.

Anyone else pick one up yet?

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I picked one up last week. I replaced the grip with a prodigy grip i had laying around. I also put a spare trigger i had from Red Dirt. Only issues ive had was with the extractor. It needed to be tuned a little. I was able to get the trigger pull weight down from 7lbs to 2lbs.
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Thanks for all of the detailed write ups.

Hate to be negative, but this seems like a money pit.

I’m especially turned off that you have to pay warranty shipping both ways from an FFL.

Sounds like Prodigy negative 2.0 , but a tinkerer’s wet dream.
 
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In for a penny, in for a pound.

I have exchanged a few emails with Marty Enloe in Phoenix. I will likely soon be sending my Girsan to him for a little work. I'll have him fit a new extractor and install a new front sight to work with the C&H plate. I'll probably also have a new thumb safety installed and have a few other minor things done like a tighter barrel bushing.

I do have a new grip module ready to go. I bought a Springfield Prodigy grip and sent it to Extreme Shooters for his dragon scale treatment. I'll probably stick something like a Taran Tactical low profile mag well on the bottom.

All told it would have likely been better to wait for the MAC. As I've said, these will likely be the less traumatic route. But then again the MAC is all steel. One of the things that attracted me to the EAA is the lighter aluminum frame.

More in several months after the work is complete.....
 
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Aaron Cowan reviews the 5" gun on his Patreon page. He ran the gun through his usual 2K test which includes the four drop tests. He doesn't have any self-ejecting mag issues and the gun was quite accurate in his testing. The only thing he found odd was the fact that he kept getting ejection failures when running the gun with one hand only. He assumes this could be cured by playing with the recoil spring. I'd say that's a good guess.

Overall he likes the gun and thinks it is a good "gateway drug" into 2011s. I would say the MAC is the better value. I don't know if Aaron has seen/shot a MAC yet.
 
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