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The Heritage is 4" like the C2 or C. if P/ XC grip isn't a problem, but you're really looking for an all-arounder, I'd agree w Dave and GO Heritage, for the steel frame.

i had a Heritage and think I was too hasty flipping it, when it wasn't exactly what i wanted.. but the real driver to sell off was the idea that I could get the slightly larger P for $2K, and pull $1000 out of the equation for bullets and that's what I did. :D

but then sent it off for this cut
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Whoa, comp and ports. Nice. I bet it shoots very flat? Does the SRO get gas or any debris back from shooting? Looks great
 
Discussion starter · #22 ·
Very similar in size.

If you aren't going to compete, get the XC. XC is not competitive Open, so you can't go USPSA, only IDPA. The compensator and lighter recoil spring on the XC are going to give the following advantages over the P:

Less muzzle rise
Less recoil
Faster cycling
Faster return to zero

If you're slow shooting at a single target, there's not much difference. But the faster you shoot, the better the XC becomes over the P.

I don't own any Stacattos (I went Atlas for competition), but most of my range buds have them and I've shot most of them.

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Good point on the competition bit! I guess I can throw that concern out the window! Thanks for the visual as well, it really isn’t that much bigger!
 
Discussion starter · #23 ·
I'd go XC, especially if it's as cheap as you're suggesting.. btw how much was that?

have XC here though and I just bought a P (sent off for comp/ inline port combo) so my real reply is get the XC go from there.. if only because how easy they are to sell, after market.. P are also easy to sell but since there are fewer XC on the market, they seem to move faster.

.. but end of day, at 5'10" [secretly 5'9" now to age, accretion and gravity] i can still EDC IWB an XC or any 5" gun, with a Tenicor Malus Sol, and assumptively easier, without light/ holster.

per the pic above, it's just not that much bigger. and OWB/IWB side, it's a non-issue.

so the real reply is that if you like the one, you'll probably end up with the other but both are good for all purposes.
Haven’t pulled the trigger yet - I like to sit on it until my head is resolved, specially for a big purchase! A friend of a friend offered me theirs for $3700. They figure to just hold on to it but offered it to me because of a close connection.

I figure if I do go with the XC, it’ll stay in the truck when we go out… so kinda EDC-ish… lol
 
Discussion starter · #24 ·
Reading what you wrote for a "use case", for me, fwiw since you asked, I'd get neither.

The XC is a fantastic, and relatively pricey, range fun gun. Sure some carry it and or use it for defense roles, but that's a minority of owners. And that is because that isn't the best use case for an XC and there are many better pistols for those roles.

The 4.15" P Heritage is a better fit for your use case. But again, as others have pointed out, its not an ideal fit either for many of us.

The C 4" or C2 are better fits imho if you want a Staccato for your use case. And both will cost a bunch less than a Heritage P or XC. But, if you have your heart set on one or the other of those pistols you mention, despite being poor fits with your use case, then both are certainly good guns and popular choices for many 2011 fans.
I think you nailed it on the head on use case. There’s also certain part of economical cost that gets counted in for me:
-I‘ve seen 4” C’s w/ RDS and light for $3k.
-Heritages in the low $3k
-Current XC offer to me is just slightly above mid $3k
 
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I am reading between the lines here, but sounds like what you really want is the 2024 C with a compact grip… 😀
Haha! The C did fit me very well. In economic terms though if the C, Heritage, and XC were close in price, I wouldn’t want to miss out on a better shooting gun….at the same time not abandon use-case. I know I know… the best solution is get ‘em all lol
 
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I had this same thought ☝

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Do you find a big difference in shootability between C and P ? Is one noticeably more jumpy than the other?

I do find the C’s aesthetics and proportion in that exact config very appealing! Really close to the Heritage on the surface with only 1 less front serration and not quite full dust cover.
 
Haven’t pulled the trigger yet - I like to sit on it until my head is resolved, specially for a big purchase! A friend of a friend offered me theirs for $3700. They figure to just hold on to it but offered it to me because of a close connection.

I figure if I do go with the XC, it’ll stay in the truck when we go out… so kinda EDC-ish… lol
hope you have a lock box for your truck or a good under dash hidey spot.. honestly, if you truck gun, just get a Gen3 Glock 20, keep your nice guns for nice fun.

$3700 is a good price on an XC for sure, especially if you take into account the no extra costs as in an online purchase, shipping.. if you do decide to car gun with the XC, make sure you confirm with your agent, in writing, up to what amount is covered.. depending on your policy, you may need a special rider for a $4k firearm.

but then you still need a gun you can take in places with you.. unless you're planning to ask the gang persons, tryna rob the place, if you can slip out to your truck to get the wallet they're asking about.

often times, what I've found by watching crime TV shows written by Sociology/ Women's Studies double majors, who know nothing about guns, criminals or gang type folks.. is that the bad actors in the programs won't let you go get your wallet/ gun.

i think this is likely a trust issue.. gang type folks, usually came up in a rough neighborhood and didn't have both parents in the home for support.

it's really not their fault, when they don't trust jobs or working a 9-5, to make their hard earned scratch.. and expect you to fund them, due to your privilege :D

so, back to the store you're in, where shirt is about to go down and you can see your truck out there, through the window, as you edge to the door, ready to ask permission to leave and retrieve.

what I'm suggesting is, it would be better to also have something on you to, offer in exchange, besides a thin excuse on wallet location, that already has bullets in it, like a gun.
 
Haha! The C did fit me very well. In economic terms though if the C, Heritage, and XC were close in price, I wouldn’t want to miss out on a better shooting gun….at the same time not abandon use-case. I know I know… the best solution is get ‘em all lol
If I recall your OP, you're soon to lose your EDC to your wife. In that case, my focus would be on replacing my EDC, and a "fun gun" would have to wait for a subsequent purchase order approval. Back to my C/C2/CS suggestion on Page 1.
 
Do you find a big difference in shootability between C and P ? Is one noticeably more jumpy than the other?

I do find the C’s aesthetics and proportion in that exact config very appealing! Really close to the Heritage on the surface with only 1 less front serration and not quite full dust cover.
Unfortunately, I don't own a P so I can't compare directly. What I can say is that, like you, I have medium sized hands and the 2024 Staccato C fits my hand perfectly.
The recoil on the C is surprisingly soft for a gun that weighs 26oz. I truthfully expected it to be more.
 
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