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Is it ethical to sell a P320 right now.

  • Sure it is, get out from under it, buyer beware.

    Votes: 13 10%
  • No, selling a P320 today should be avoided for the sake of safety and good will.

    Votes: 24 19%
  • Yes, it's fine if the buyer is fully aware of current problems with the line.

    Votes: 90 71%

Is it ethical to sell a P320 right now?

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2.9K views 70 replies 49 participants last post by  Roehl  
#1 ·
So many of us have P320's, and with the current and ongoing issues it's natural to want to cut losses and run from the platform. I have an FCG and all the parts to assemble a custom in my safe, and I've thought about selling it in the past, but I just don't know that I'd be able to do it in good conscious, so to me the answer is clear, but I thought I'd start a poll to see a curve. It's something to talk about at least.
 
#2 ·
Bill of sale with potential issues, purchaser signs indicating understanding. Or to a gun shop (loss likely) or better still sell as parts, not a complete firearm. I bought a High Power that had the SASS treatment - a clear statement that the mag safety was disabled accompanied the gun, and a copy stayed with the seller.
 
#3 ·
As long as buyer is aware and still wants to buy it, sell it,nothing unethical about it. I sold a jeep to someone that really wanted it. It had been sitting without being used for like 7 yrs. I told the it ran with no problems when I parked it but after sitting so long I couldn’t say what it might need. I disclosed everything. They still wanted it knowing that so no ethical issues. Same would be for the gun. If all is disclosed sell with clear conscience
 
#8 ·
It’s fine as a range him.


Mine has always been a range gun. I initially planned to (eventually) carry it, but changed my mind when I saw others having “issues”.

I’ll keep it but it’ll never be carried.
 
#12 ·
Yikes, I'm not sure what I'd do but I will say this...when I was in my twenties I was selling a motorcycle, an absurdly fast Kawasaki KZ1000 Z1-R. A 17 year old kid answered the ad and showed up with cash. I made him call his mother from my house and she said while she wasn't thrilled, she had given her blessing. I have no knowledge of anything bad happening to that young man, but I've probably thought about how foolish it was to sell him that bike a thousand times over the last 40 years. It has bothered me all this time.
 
#14 ·
Honestly, people who are in the firearm world know enough about the P320 and the shadiness behind SIG as a whole that if they're willing to gobble up a P320 for a low price they're assuming all risks. It's not your responsibility as the seller of the firearm anyway - the onus is on the manufacturer (hence, recalls...)

And with SIG already having done one huge recall for these pistols a few years ago I wouldn't be shocked if they began rolling out another huge iteration to fix their FCU's.

True story: my local shop has quite a few of them on hand right now in various trims as they are a preferred dealer... They sent us a funny text today saying to bolo for a huge package deal coming down the pipeline from SIG to get rid of whatever they have (tons of ammo to go with purchase, holsters, lights, etc...)
 
#35 ·
Just to be clear, I'm not selling my FCU or asking for advice on what I should do. I created this thread for discussion and reflective purposes.

My vote was for number 2, with a close number 3 as circumstances dictate. What I know is if someone I loved was shopping for a gun and hasn't asked me about it first, I pray any seller would disclose to them what's happening with Sig and the 320 guns before taking their money at the very least. More to my liking would be for that seller to refuse the sale outright and steer them to a better choice, there are so many out there.
 
#24 ·
Good luck on selling a Sig 320 these days. I’d only sell or trade one to a licensed FFL these days.
locally most of the shops are offering Pennie’s on the dollar for trades or an ought right purchase. I sure wouldn’t carry one with a round in the chambers, or keep one at the ready in the home with a round in the chamber.
If we still owned one I’d probably just stash the FCU only in the safe.

On a different note with this whole Sig 320 issue I’m curious if anyone has tried to sell or trade there P 320 back to Sig
hmmm 🤔😎
 
#26 ·
I was just looking at one and figuring out what Apendix Holster would work, When... Seriously These are tools. Not my top choice of tools. Nobody can determine how or what motivates someone to consider a P320 with its concerns. From a Business perspective, SIG needs accountability in the equation. I read they filed a lawsuit against a WA training facility. They may have a full legitimate case of knee jerk reaction. At the same time, Why is a Government Agency BANNING firearms? It is a multifaceted problem. I learned at a very early age not to put my hand on a hot stove. It hurt. It was one of my first life lessons. We live in a great Country where Capitalism is a pillar of our society. IF fully disclosed, Sell it. If I owned one I wouldn't be rushing to sell it. It might just be one of those books on the shelf that I see and remember the lessons learned from it.
 
#27 ·
Sell it. Yeah, they're unsafe, but tons of things people sell aren't. Has every gun store that's sold an 870 or a 500 told the customer it's not drop safe with a round in the chamber? Has everyone that's sold a non-firing pin block 19/2011 told the receiver that if it's dropped on the muzzle it might fire? How many places sell re manufactured ammo of questionable quality? Or gimmicky nonsense defense ammo like RIP ammo?

I am NOT a 320 defender, far from it- the 320 has problems and really needs to go away. But I wouldn't hold all sellers to some standard. If someone wants to buy a 320, sell it to em. If they ask, tell them many people think the guns has problems and you'd be happy to sell them something else if they're uncomfortable with that. Or disclose it from the beginning.

It's like all the club matches banning 320s- I've watched open guns double at matches, people put rounds into dirt from shadow 2s on load and make ready all the time, handloaded major ammo nukes guns, Serpas still aren't banned from most matches, but social media inertia has made the 320 the gun it's morally ok to ban.
 
#28 ·
Sell it. Yeah, they're unsafe, but tons of things people sell aren't. Has every gun store that's sold an 870 or a 500 told the customer it's not drop safe with a round in the chamber? Has everyone that's sold a non-firing pin block 19/2011 told the receiver that if it's dropped on the muzzle it might fire? How many places sell re manufactured ammo of questionable quality? Or gimmicky nonsense defense ammo like RIP ammo?

I am NOT a 320 defender, far from it- the 320 has problems and really needs to go away. But I wouldn't hold all sellers to some standard. If someone wants to buy a 320, sell it to em. If they ask, tell them many people think the guns has problems and you'd be happy to sell them something else if they're uncomfortable with that. Or disclose it from the beginning.

It's like all the club matches banning 320s- I've watched open guns double at matches, people put rounds into dirt from shadow 2s on load and make ready all the time, handloaded major ammo nukes guns, Serpas still aren't banned from most matches, but social media inertia has made the 320 the gun it's morally ok to ban.
Yes, pro 2A gun people who are saying the gun is unsafe, hell it is the top selling product for last couple of months. This isn't anti-2a gun social media, these are people that have put more rounds in firearms than you or me. These same people own 320's, they are just exercising their right to free speech, and speak that these guns are unsafe. Then the safety issues, speak for themselves, thus it has created a perfect storm, with SIG denying, people are dying and getting seriously injured by their product. Which they stand behind, which we know is BS.
 
#29 ·
Ethic issues would mean selling something without disclosing known issues. Used car dealers are a prime example. They don't look for any issues so they cannot tell you about them. Ethically, that's good. Morally, not so good.
If you know of any issues WITH THE SPECIFIC ITEM (gun), inform the buyer and let them decide. IF you have no issues with the specific item (i.e never had an un-commanded discharge), that can be disclosed, and the buyer beware.