Personally, I won't shoot my 12g Shockwave for fun, cause it ain't no fun for me. I even put the pistol grip and brace on, but still ..... NOPE! I am a smaller guy and not young, so your idea of fun may be different. I have a Beneli semi that I enjoy shooting. It's a world of difference. If you haven't shot one, maybe see if you can borrow or rent one before taking the plunge.

Just my 2 cents.

 

Personally, I won't shoot my 12g Shockwave for fun, cause it ain't no fun for me. I even put the pistol grip and brace on, but still ..... NOPE! I am a smaller guy and not young, so your idea of fun may be different. I have a Beneli semi that I enjoy shooting. It's a world of difference. If you haven't shot one, maybe see if you can borrow or rent one before taking the plunge.

Just my 2 cents.

I'm not a big guy either, but I used to hip fire my 870 & that was fun LOL.

No desire to slap other stocks/grips on the Shockwave. Defeats the purpose. Maybe some grip tape or the grip strap thing I saw online

 

I had the Black Aces version for a couple of months but never got around to shooting it. I felt it was a good idea at the time of purchase. Yet none of the ranges would let you fire without a laser installed. I ended up selling it very shortly after that.

 

I saw the crimson Trace makes a laser for the Mossberg shockwave. I would install that if I bought one of those. Is there no laser for the black aces?

 

About a year ago I researched some Black Aces products. The results had me stay far away from their products. Spend an hour on line reading customer reviews.

 

Shockwave is a blast to shoot. Love mine, it’s great for what it is. I prefer a pump action, if it’s not a Benelli

 

I have zero experience with the Black Aces offering, but have been using tactical shotguns for a long time. Also hunt with them.

Between just those two I would say get the Mossberg. I have owned many over the years, and it a tried and true shotgun brand. All of mine have functioned flawlessly. My “go to” duck and deer shotguns are MB 935 Waterfowl and a 930. Both are semi auto.

My more expanded advice would be in two parts.

1- Forget the novelty guns and get a proper tactical shotgun with a pistol grip and stock. Being able to actually operate the weapon and hit what you are aiming at is more important than having 10 less inches of gun to hide in some hypothetical SHTF scenario.

2- Save a bit and get a semi auto. Besides the fact that you can shoot it faster in a defensive situation, there is another big advantage that many don’t realize. The semi auto action eats up enough of the recoil that you can actually shoot the gun more than once or twice without getting a black and blue shoulder. It’s a big difference in the 12 gauge platform. Especially with heavy loads.

This will allow you to enjoy shooting the gun and actually get good with it.

Good luck either way.

 

I already have an 870 that is my go to for everything (I don't hunt)

It's not about needing to save money. I already want the black aces version more because it is semi-auto. Figured it can't hurt to get other opinions

 

I’ve only seen the Black Aces guns in postings online by CDNN.
My 12 gauge Shokwave is built well, and I can shoot it very well “as delivered.”
It lives in my truck, loaded with #4 buck.

 

From what I have read and watched nuromus videos, Blk Ace is hands down below Moseberg, just my opinion.

 

Remington does have a semi auto version

TAC-13 | Remington

 

I've got the Mossberg and I can't think of anything better for my home defense platform. Fitted with the CT green laser and an OPSol to allow for the use of mini-slugs, it is nearly perfect for my home layout.

 

Who makes the side saddle you have installed?

 

You’re right. Every LGS seems to have a Shockwave. Too bad I want a Remy Tac 14

 

I have yet to see one of those in person either. Just the Mossberg so far

 

Buy a Beretta 1301 Tactical-softest and best shooting semi-auto I've ever shot-I've had the Mossberg and the Remington V-Tac 13 not even close to the Beretta.

 

Have ordered Black Aces accessories, and based on the stuff I got, I would stay far away.

I do love my shockwave: payed for the SBS permission stamp and got a bunch of Magpul and GG&G parts onboard. Probably got more in parts than I originally paid for the gun, but it's my absolute favorite pump and it's made it through several courses.

 

I am on the hunt for a Mossberg shockwave

 

My LGS has them.

 

I have a black aces bullpup style semi automatic 12ga.

It's pretty solid, heavy as a pile of bricks and so far reliable with 00 shells. The drum mags are pointless as they're too big and interfere with your grip (on a bullpup design) but with the included 5 rnd mag it's been good. I bought it for fun on clearance for like $250 I think- I'd rather have a Shockwave for HD.

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