So it's bad enough that the Sig P320 is going off uncommanded. But what really turns me against Sig is the way they are trying to sue organizations who don't want to use their dangerous firearm anymore. That seems like something the liberal deep state does. How are you going to use the court system to try to force somebody to use your product? Sig considers themselves as a permanent fixture in government. Perhaps this attitude is what led them to put out inferior products with poor quality control. Just like any other government institution! Just my rant.
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Sig is so wrong
Not defending Sig at all, but I think it’s about more than just agencies not wanting to use the guns or facilities not allowing them. It’s more about the negative publicity that Sig gets every time someone new comes out and bans the 320. It’s an attempt at damage control and to say “we’re not going to take this lying down.”
That said, I wouldn’t own a P320 right now if you paid me. I can just understand why Sig would take this step. Then again, I am a lawyer.
That said, I wouldn’t own a P320 right now if you paid me. I can just understand why Sig would take this step. Then again, I am a lawyer.
Sig surely has an in-house legal department. They would be the ones dictating the corporate response to all of this in whatever manner they think is most apt to minimize liability and reputational harm. The Sig USA president could be desperate to recall the 320 and proactively settle lawsuits...but can't. I'm not providing cover, I'm just saying it's for sure a ginormous legal issue and they are responding in the ways they think is in the corporations best interests.
Sig is the hot topic today…
This isn’t the first time a major firearms company has found itself catching push back.
In 2017, Springfield Armory and Rock River threw small Illinois FFLs under the bus.
Back in the early 2000s, Smith & Wesson cozied up to the Clinton administration.
And those are just the high-profile examples. I’m certain There are plenty more if you dig through history.
The truth is, Americans tend to have a short memory. Just like 90% of gun owners moved past the controversies with Springfield, Rock River, and Smith & Wesson, they’ll eventually move past the current uproar with Sig too.
Nothing different this time.
This isn’t the first time a major firearms company has found itself catching push back.
In 2017, Springfield Armory and Rock River threw small Illinois FFLs under the bus.
Back in the early 2000s, Smith & Wesson cozied up to the Clinton administration.
And those are just the high-profile examples. I’m certain There are plenty more if you dig through history.
The truth is, Americans tend to have a short memory. Just like 90% of gun owners moved past the controversies with Springfield, Rock River, and Smith & Wesson, they’ll eventually move past the current uproar with Sig too.
Nothing different this time.
Back in the early 90s Glock did just this. A northern PD or SD sent out letters to LE they were dropping the Glock from NDs and Glock told them to cease and dissist or they'd be sued. Well they had to because it was basically operator stupidity. I had the original letter on the LE's letterhead on my old computer but it melted down and gone. I've tried to find it but can't being computer stupid. Now Sig is a different story, I thought Glock was a flawed design...
I have a 226 SAO that I have had for probably 12 years. I had to sell all my guns once to raise money and the Sig stayed. I’ll never sell it, even with numerous guns I own that cost way more, if war came calling, it would still get the call. Sig has been around a long time and they’ll survive this. It’s going to hurt though.
I have heard that in the past, gun manufacturers had to refund the amount they were paid when a Government had a problem with the product after purchase. The agency kept the product. I do not know if this is fact.
If this is the case here, could this be an attempt by SIG to save money paid to them?
If this is the case here, could this be an attempt by SIG to save money paid to them?
Oh s&3t!!!! After all these years are you telling me the opposition is right?!!!!?! The gun may do the killing and not the person?!!?
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Ok to rant or rant away anytime but it was a matter of breach of contract.
My initial thought was the same then read into it a bit.
My initial thought was the same then read into it a bit.
My approach to problem solving has always been non-traditional.
As an example, right now I'm working on co-phasing my Atomic Hair Splitter with my Time Machine.
The Atomic Hair Splitter will dig every speck of fly poop from the pepper. The Time Machine will allow us to turn back the hands of time to fix things and make them right.
The result of these lab experiments will show that knowing what we know today, then turning back the hands of time, SIG wouldn't have the problems they have today.
SIG would have lost the contract and Beretta would be on the run from the ambulance chasers and freedom haters.
NOTE- I did have to employ Artificial Intelligence to come up with this conclusion.
As an example, right now I'm working on co-phasing my Atomic Hair Splitter with my Time Machine.
The Atomic Hair Splitter will dig every speck of fly poop from the pepper. The Time Machine will allow us to turn back the hands of time to fix things and make them right.
The result of these lab experiments will show that knowing what we know today, then turning back the hands of time, SIG wouldn't have the problems they have today.
SIG would have lost the contract and Beretta would be on the run from the ambulance chasers and freedom haters.
NOTE- I did have to employ Artificial Intelligence to come up with this conclusion.
If I was running Sig.
1) Stop making new 320s except to fill contacts. Don’t accept any new contacts for the 320.
2) Quietly set up a company to purchase the 320s as cheaply as possible. Save the magazines and sell them. Destroy the pistols to get them permanently off the market. There will always be some left. Those will become rare collectors items sitting in safes around the world.
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1) Stop making new 320s except to fill contacts. Don’t accept any new contacts for the 320.
2) Quietly set up a company to purchase the 320s as cheaply as possible. Save the magazines and sell them. Destroy the pistols to get them permanently off the market. There will always be some left. Those will become rare collectors items sitting in safes around the world.
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