[Buccaneer12]

I might have to make a video, but for lack of a better explanation on my part, I would say the web of the hand riding up into the beavertail while still leaving room for my support hand does leave a gap that doesn't depress the grip safety on several occasions. My goal when I establish a two hand grip, is to have as much support hand palm on the backstrap as I do dominant hand. If i could split it equally I would do that. The slide comes back, the gun recoils back, so I am trying to put as much rigidity and structure behind it as I can. Two hands is better than one, etc. If I could have my palms and the bones of my wrists meet together behind the gun, I would do that every time. Atlas grip modules are, so far, my favorite as I can make them the widest with the grip inserts.

so, i would offer that what you're attempting to do is working contrary to kinesiology and hand eye coordination pathways in the brain and making you slower.

the brain always establishes a dominant hand to coordinate with. By trying to split the grip pressure that evenly, you're denying 2 things- 1 a dominant hand with which to drive the gun and 2- the grip pressure of a hand using forearm muscle to grab something. You want to wrap and crush the grip of a gun as hard as you can while getting both hands on the gun. Whether or not you choose to cam your elbows out to "clam" the grip from there is up to you.

the majority of grip strength comes from the forearm, and if your fingers arent wrapped around the object, ie a deadlift bar or a pistol grip, it becomes less accessible to leverage in the moment.

its much harder to clap your hands together over a 45lb weight plate and lift it over your head than it is to grip around the sides of a plate and lift it up. Hand strength comes from the forearm and the wrap of the hand.

that said, Id love to see a video of what you're talking about as it would be helpful to see/understand.

And Id also love to see your way of doing this put to the test, because I dont think its a good method, but Im open to learning something new. you mentioned standards for recoil control previously and I agree. Theory has to be backed up in practice.

Pick a carry pistol of your choice and a duty load (45acp or 9mm +p, etc), and show me a video of 2 bill drills shot from concealment, back to back, clean, to standard, in 2 sec or less; or pass the addicts coin challenge in my sig line to standard, using your grip method and then teach it back to the forum on the video.

do one of those, with instruction of how you applied your grip method to complete it, and Ill donate $250 to the charity of your choice.

v/r

Bucc

 

[catatonic]

Support hand palm on the back strap?! Dafuq?

 

[Tokay444]

I might have to make a video, but for lack of a better explanation on my part, I would say the web of the hand riding up into the beavertail while still leaving room for my support hand does leave a gap that doesn't depress the grip safety on several occasions. My goal when I establish a two hand grip, is to have as much support hand palm on the backstrap as I do dominant hand. If i could split it equally I would do that. The slide comes back, the gun recoils back, so I am trying to put as much rigidity and structure behind it as I can. Two hands is better than one, etc. If I could have my palms and the bones of my wrists meet together behind the gun, I would do that every time. Atlas grip modules are, so far, my favorite as I can make them the widest with the grip inserts.

This you?

 

[Buccaneer12]

This you? View attachment 1701515

that grip looks correct and like it would deac a geip safety....

 

[JK981]

keeps looking better and better

 

[Tokay444]

that grip looks correct and like it would deac a geip safety....

And yet, no support palm on the back strap.

 

[jetrinka]

And yet, no support palm on the back strap.

I literally cannot make my hands do that on a pistol….

 

[HeavyDuty]

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keeps looking better and better

Ok, that’s sexy.

 

[Buccaneer12]

I literally cannot make my hands do that on a pistol….

i would agree that is a standard thumbs forward grip and not what is being described.

 

[TangoHotel]

They never said the C was going to have an island barrel. Last year they made a CS with an island barrel as a fun project for shot show range day. They said they had no plans to do that as a production model in the immediate future. I shot it and it didn’t even run well at all.

I could have sworn they said it was going to be an option in an interview I saw. I could be misremembering. I do know there’s at least one custom shop that advertises island barrel conversions for Staccato but I don’t know if he’s done the new C or a CS.

 

[lawadin2024]

I could have sworn they said it was going to be an option in an interview I saw. I could be misremembering. I do know there’s at least one custom shop that advertises island barrel conversions for Staccato but I don’t know if he’s done the new C or a CS.

You are correct I remember it too and remember looking for one

 

[eli_g]

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keeps looking better and better

Is V2 just the regular P ones ?

 

[catatonic]

Is V2 just the regular P ones ?

Yea, thats a 4.4 P, I would assume they're saying V2 because its their 2nd Generation grip module.

 

[TangoHotel]

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keeps looking better and better

Not bad. They also just made fun of the Platypus, which I think is hilarious, and that makes me more interested than I otherwise would be.

 

[kmclaug34]

Overall, I’m happy they’re offering something different and wish them all the best. I really would have liked to see the price come in $200-$300 lower across the board.

The 4.5 is a tempting offering but as others have said, when I’m at the ~3k level before optics and lights do I really want to punch that ticket for a staccato? Or does the wiser shopper save up a bit longer. $1500 more dollars and the options quite a bit.

That said, if they offer these on the LEO/Mil discount the price might be compelling.

Save up and buy something other then a staccato imo. I get that they have a business to run and money to make but with the price points on these pistols for what you are getting is showing me its all about the money. Im personally over the hype of them rather save and get a vanta or night hawk instead of getting 2 or 3 staccatos just my opinion

 

[Jnex95]

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keeps looking better and better

more curious to see one in person now.

that grip seems really skinny in comparison

 

[Tokay444]

Edit. Delete.

 

[oldnrusty38]

Save up and buy something other then a staccato imo. I get that they have a business to run and money to make but with the price points on these pistols for what you are getting is showing me its all about the money. Im personally over the hype of them rather save and get a vanta or night hawk instead of getting 2 or 3 staccatos just my opinion

what does a Vanta do for you that a Staccato won’t?

 

[JK981]

more curious to see one in person now.

that grip seems really skinny in comparison

looks like it’s on par with the v3 grip.

 

[Trencher]

Interesting video on grip, hopefully not getting too far in the weeds in a staccato thread.