The XC is a little flatter but it is not by much, both are extremely flat. For me there is a noticeable difference in feel though with the XC having a very short light slide reciprocating and the comp pumping gas out the top vs the XL having the heavier long slide. I prefer the comped guns and feel like they are quicker and more nimble, but I've also talked to others who like the long slide approach better. Either way you go, they both shred. The comp is noticeably louder, but you get used to it.

 

Honestly, for the price I would go Atlas Titan. Way flatter shooter and better fit/finish. Same goes for CK Arms vs Staccato.

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Staccato is a production gun. CK Arms and Atlas are semi-custom/hand fit guns with much more attention to fit and finish. They perform better as well because they are purpose built for performance as they have a pedigree/lineage in competition shooting.

 

Honestly, for the price I would go Atlas Titan. Way flatter shooter and better fit/finish. Same goes for CK Arms vs Staccato.

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Staccato is a production gun. CK Arms and Atlas are semi-custom/hand fit guns with much more attention to fit and finish. They perform better as well because they are purpose built for performance as they have a pedigree/lineage in competition shooting.

I tried to google CK Arms and was not able to find much about them. Do they go by a different name sometimes?

Atlas are nice looking. I can't imagine putting that much money into a pistol with a 12 month warranty. That just doesn't work for me.

 

Masterpiece Arms purchased CK. They offer the DS9.
You might want to check McLearn Custom Guns also

 

I had heard that but wasn’t sure how Masterpiece arms got into the 2011 business so fast. They look nice. I shot an older CK arms and while nice, wasn’t nearly as nice as my STI DVC Omni was. If the OP can swing the extra money for an Atlas, then go for it. Otherwise get the Staccato. They make really nice guns.


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With all the additional suggestions, I think it is important that the OP decides if he wants a polymer gripped 2011 or metal gripped 2011. As great as some of the metal grips are, there are those who still prefer polymer grips on 2011's.

For example, Joe Chambers has stated he has no intentions of building metal gripped double stacks. He feels the extra weight and cost is a detriment to his product. Personally there are times where I prefer a polymer grip module, specifically August in Texas, and the reduced weight is almost always appreciated on a working gun.

 

Thanks @AJP

is cleaning and maintaining the comp a pain in the neck?

does the comp slow down the bullet velocity?

 

Thanks @AJP

is cleaning and maintaining the comp a pain in the neck?

does the comp slow down the bullet velocity?

No, upkeep of the comp isn't bad. Every few range trips I get in it with a dental pick to scrape out any bigger chunks of build up.

As for bullet velocity, it is my understanding that you get full velocity based on the barrel length before the comp. So the XC is a 5" gun, but the comp starts at about 4 or 4.25ish, so you get 4 or 4.25" barrel velocity.

 

Really depends on what you want. The CK gun is certainly more custom than the Stacatto and it's likely to have a metal grip, if that means anything to you. I think the XL is going for around $3400 retail. Not sure what CKARMS is getting for a Limited gun now. The Stacatto guns are made to run on factory ammo, which is a good thing, if you can get factory ammo.

 

Thanks, but what is the CK Arms? I was trying to compare two different Staccatos: XC and XL.

Is CK Arms a good competitor to either of those?

 

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Between the two, I’d go XC, but I personally love comped guns.

 

While there have been some great guns listed, you have to decide what you want. I have a few 2011 style pistols from STI to Staccatos and Atlas pistols. When I open the safe, I find myself always reaching for the same gun to take to the range but force myself to shoot others. Just sold my nemesis, amazing gun that I shot very well, just didn't find myself reaching for it when I wanted to go shooting. I am now on the hunt for a new grail pistol and am waiting for someone's 2022 books to open to replace a few I have sold.

 

I'd probably go with the XC just for the better trigger and compensator. I've got a 4.15 and 4.45 Stacatto P DUO. The 4.45" gun balances better in the hand and shoots a little flatter. Since I got these two pistols with DPPs on them, I haven't been able to make myself shoot an iron sighted pistol. They will spoil you for sure.

 

I can't speak to the Staccato XC vs. the XL and the former's compensator maintenance, but I have a Sig P229 Sport. One of my best friends found the compensator on that to be a PITA. I don't find it much additional effort at all.

Please excuse the thread drift...

Since I got these two pistols with DPPs on them, I haven't been able to make myself shoot an iron sighted pistol. They will spoil you for sure.

I've been toying with the idea of eventually acquiring a "race gun" with an RDS. That is my biggest concern: That the RDS will spoil me and I'll not want to shoot my iron-sighted pistols anymore. For that reason, alone, I may just leave the RDS experience to my AR.

 

This may go against the grain a bit, but my STI DVC OMNI is the tightest fitting, smoothest shooting, with the crispest trigger of all of my 1911/2011s. For a "production gun, with production quality" it blows some of my higher end guns out of the water. Some guns maybe have more soul (like my alchemy's) but nothing I have performs better in all quantifiable metrics, at least with my particular pistol.

I can run it with .11 second splits doing double taps in the A zone at 15 yards. It's an insane pistol.

Now I haven't handled an XC, nor do I really know how meaningful the difference between STI/Staccato's rebranding is, but if it's anything like my Omni, you will be completely satisfied.

I'm getting in a Firehawk soon, but it'll be in 45 so it won't be the best side by side comparison, but I'm happy to report back on my findings.

 

Please report. I don’t think you’re in the wrong, but finding an Omni seems like finding a unicorn