[Roehl]

I am an admitted movie nut and a big John Wick fan. I have most of the movie guns just because. I wouldn’t hesitate buying a Pit Viper. It’s a nice gun and shoots very flat. But it isn’t a value option, you are paying the for the franchise and the TTI branding. But it’s a solid shooter if that’s what you want. The sand viper would be the same just optic ready. I have shot Atlas guns and they are nice just not my cup of tea. Infinity makes a great firearm. I have owned 3 and sold them all not because I didn’t like them but I was offered a lot more than I paid for them. I am getting my 4th next month. And when I designed it, I didn’t get backup irons for it. So you have my feelings on that. The Staccato XC is a well regarded firearm and considering the market, not a bad value. The new kid on the market seems to be the Vudoo Priest. I personally don’t like the overall esthetic and I hate Cerakote on a tight fitted pistol. It’s too thick and it wears too easily for my tastes. But people here seem to love them. But the price seems to be fair. The more I have gotten into 2011s the more i have come to the conclusion that most of the ones I have shot are fully capable of running faster than I can make them. Just buy what you like and shoot and train as much as you can. When you feel like you have reached the limit and know what you like, then go full custom. I have a Charyn build coming up in 2025 and I am most excited about that because I feel like I will get it built exactly how I like it and I know the quality will be impeccable.

 

[Roehl]

This is the biggest question of the decade so far: who is building the TTI guns for Taran……anyone?

no one knows who builds them. Anyone saying otherwise is speculating. I still think it will get out eventually. I wouldn’t get surprised if it was Staccato nor would I be surprised if it wasn’t. But I think passing on speculation as fact is distasteful and wrong. Speculating is fine just let it be known that you don’t know.

 

[Roehl]

What's crazy is I didn't replace anything on it. Not even the recoil spring and they recommend that every 5k. I'm gonna replace it here soon though. An interesting fact that I learned after calling staccato recently is that the recoil spring weights have changed over the years. When I got the gun in 2021 it was being made with 7lb recoil springs. Then in 2022 they switched to 9lb, and then in 2023 they went to 8lb springs which is what they're still using now. I guess the 8lb is the happy medium between performance and reliability.

With regards to maintenance. When I first had it cleaned after 20k rounds (give or take), there was a huge chunk of carbon buildup inside the compensator. Very difficult to clean and I didn't have the patience or needed tools to do so, so I had my local shop do the cleaning. With how dirty it was, I think they charged me like $120 to clean it because it took the gunsmith 1-2 hours lol. I don't think I'll let it go that far before cleanings again though. But I wasn't having any issues or malfunctions despite how dirty it was. All I did was add oil after every range session.

that’s the only thing I personally don’t like about comps is cleaning them. I diligently clean them after every range session. I have tried to spraying Pam, putting lube grease, etc on them to keep mine from getting gunked up and I am not sure it does anything. I am going to buy the lead pulverizer for my Volquartsen Black Mamba because it builds lead after every single range session and cleaning both the lead and carbon gets old real quick.

 

[Roehl]

False.
We've seen unfinished or blem items for sale on the second hand market that came directly out of Staccato.

 

[Roehl]

Well, certainly the dozen xc barrels for sale this year from a single seller who claims to get them as seconds tells a different story. As do the unfinished staccatos someone was selling here recently

Key word is claims. I would have to have someone truly in the know to substantiate a claim. This is the internet. People “claim” stuff all the time. It’s a grift. TTI has denied the claim that staccato makes them. But that wouldn’t be the first time someone has denied a claim and it be true. I tried the search function. Have a link?

 

[Roehl]

https://www.1911addicts.com/threads/island-cut-combat-master-slide-barrel.230265/#post-3319430

https://www.1911addicts.com/threads/island-barrel-combat-master-slide-barrel-only.229480/#post-3311676

https://www.1911addicts.com/threads/staccato-xc-combat-master.234198/#post-3359356

you realize that STI and Stacatto have made combat masters right? The limited two gun set from Stacatto and the STI CM. That doesn’t mean that they make their guns. I thought you were going to show us a TTI sand viper or Pit Viper. Still nice to see but I don’t see that as proof of anything. Thanks for finding it.

 

[Roehl]

Now that everyone has had their popcorn, here is a question. What other pistols are designed to have an optic sit this low? View attachment 1541845

Infinity does

 

[Roehl]

Bought one xc
2x erebus
2x artimis
1 x gtx
2 night hawks
1 sandviper
1 very nice guncrafter

some really nguns in that mix few dogs
But the xc is still in its spot and the others just memories
No regrets

in the end its all in the hand and mind of the shooter

I have to agree. I have had 3 X Infinity, 1 Honcho, 1 STI CM, 1 TTI Pit Viper. If I were pressed, I would say I shot the Honcho the fasted with the frame mounted optic and ported barrels. The TTI Pit Viper is extremely pleasant to shoot and really begs you to pull the trigger faster. The Infinity pistols I will say I was the most accurate with if just utilizing the irons. Everyone’s experiences are just going to be different and a lot of it is just how you feel about the pistol and the overall experience. I still have the Pit Viper and the CM. The other three were sold not because I didn’t like them but for other reasons. I have another Infinity coming in next month which I plan on keeping and a Charyn build in 2025. I don’t plan on selling anymore 2011s. Right now my shooting focus has switched back to precision rifles which I have neglected for a few years.

 

[Roehl]

The ported version (non-island barrel) is around 5300.

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The Cobra is pretty nice and overall a decent value. I believe that they have a good reputation. I haven’t shot one but I do like the Venom Customs better in terms of what he offers. Is Don still taking orders?