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I grabbed one thru a distributor for a demo gun, because of the retro Colt M1911/M1911A1-ish vibes with the subtle modern enhancements. I dig the fact that the slide closely matches my WWI Colt 1918 M1911 (aside from the original factory ball cuts), but I too, was a bit confused by the pairing of an M1911A1 style frame.

Initial Impressions:

Pros:

All together, it is a visually stunning retro package. A journey back to 2 different times, with just the right amount of subtle modern upgrades. Absolutely beautiful-if you're taking pics for IG clout.

The bluing is immaculate.

Nods to to the WWI reproduction thumb safety and slide stop.

Great 20 LPI front strap checkering and the trigger guard undercut is a nice, contemporary upgrade.

I'm digging the classic brass F. bead sight.

Beveled magwell is a nice touch.

Cons:

The Beaver tail grip safety is complete MIM garbage, with an extra chromosome on the memory groove/bump. While functional, it is truly ugly AF. I hate it.That being said, mine was "blended"/fit decently.

Trigger: Short trigger. While it meshes up with the M1911A1 style frame, the take up on my example is decently clean, but then you hit a wall, then it hits a burr, skips to another wall, mush-grit, then bang. Meh. Tolerable, but I've been spoiled with much better guns. Breaks at about 4- 4 1/2 lbs.

Slide to frame fit is lack luster on my example. It's a rattle trap, reminiscent of the most clapped out CMP USGI M1911A1 rebuilds. I have original WWI/WWII USGI guns that are tighter than this. Then again, most Colt production offerings are not known for one piece, rattle-free, tightness.

Barrel to slide/frame fit is marginal, with plenty of movement within the barrel hood and bushing. One wonders why Colt would skimp on fitting, while including a National Match barrel in the package.

Slide stop: While it's a decent WWI reproduction, on my example- I've never had more trouble reinstalling a slide stop on any 1911 as I have on this particular gun. It effing' sucked. the plunger detent is most likely out of spec and will definitely require some polishing and the slide stop will definitely benefit from a relief cut.

Mainspring housing: I agree with OP. Why does it not match the 20 LPI FS checkering? A lanyard loop would have been real cool to set off the retro vibe, but not absolutely necessary.

"Limited Edition" laser engraving on the slide. Meh. Not a deal killer, but would have just preferred it to be left blank, or have "Model of 1911 U.S. Army" since Colt decided to go WWI with the slide assy'. "Colt's Government Model" would have sufficed as well.

Magazine: Not a big gripe, but 1 stainless Colt 8 rounder? That decision seemed to be random AF. This will be fed exclusively thru Wilson 47 and 47Ds.

Conclusion:

I wasn't planning to send this guy out, but this example will most likely go out to Novak, Wilson or NH to get a few necessary mods done to it. Certainly not a perfect gun, but a great starting point for a custom, retro style 1911 pistol.
 
Great 20 LPI front strap checkering and the trigger guard undercut is a nice, contemporary upgrade.

I wasn't planning to send this guy out, but this example will most likely go out to Novak, Wilson or NH to get a few necessary mods done to it. Certainly not a perfect gun, but a great starting point for a custom, retro style 1911 pistol.
25lpi checkering. Just mentioning that for anyone who is replacing the MSH and wants to be feng shui.

I'm halfway tempted to send mine back to Colt to see if they actually give a $#@#, but I'm concerned about what I would get back, Short of them having the custom shop fix it. But, yeah, this thing is beyond my level of installing a few new parts.
 
25lpi checkering. Just mentioning that for anyone who is replacing the MSH and wants to be feng shui.

I'm halfway tempted to send mine back to Colt to see if they actually give a $#@#, but I'm concerned about what I would get back, Short of them having the custom shop fix it. But, yeah, this thing is beyond my level of installing a few new parts.
mine was the same when I first got it. Would not feed or cycle anything unless there was 5 rounds or less in the magazines. Sent it back to Colt, and now it it cycles fully loaded mags just fine (snap caps). Still haven’t been to the range to see how it does now. What serial number is yours? Mine is in the 900’s
 
The burr is pretty impressive.
The mention of burrs reminds me:

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Yet another reason I wasn’t happy with mine. I do think the reason I’m so critical of these pistols is because I really wanted to be happy with it. Aesthetically for the price point I’ve not seen a better pistol on the market, admittedly if I were to handle on in person, priced reasonably, I’d probably pick one up. If I found a good one so to speak, I’d be content with tinkering with it myself and making an odd “beater” pistol(really just dlc, beveling and a trigger job)
 
Wondering how that even happens. Only thing I can think of is the dovetail cutter was dull and the sight was pushed in using hydraulic ram, shoving material out of the way.
I'm still mulling over buying another one for a take 2 on my project, but I'm afraid of having to deal with another slide to frame slop fest. At least I know I can send it back to Colt if I'm generally dissatisfied.

Fun call I had with Colt on the subject. I called asking for how much slop they consider to be out of spec (mine was >.020" at the front). I was put on hold while the nice lady called engineering, who advised they wouldn't give out any spec related information. She did stress that Colt would stand behind the quality of their guns. I said "so basically, no matter how little slide to frame slop exists, I can send it back and you'll tighten it up". Her answer was "yes". Unfortunately, I can't send my first LE back, because it's been modified quite a bit.
 
I would sooner send mine to another smith than send it to Colt for anything. I guess if it were stock, I would maybe send it back to the mothership, but I cannot remember the last gun I left "stock"
 
A shop near me often has two to five of these in house. Of all the ones I have handled, mine remains the "best" of them. Some feel like you could remove the grip safety with your fingers, and one looked like it was finished differently than the others. It is almost brown.
 
I was already there, but you guys have helped solidify my decision to stay away from these. As a base gun, I think they're a very viable option if you go into it knowing youre going to replace everything, but out of the box, I wouldn't be happy. Like most of you, I've been spoiled by more expensive options with better fit and finish. However, I still expect better at Colts price point.

I had really high hopes when CZ acquired Colt and expected that they would really turn the brand around and improve quality by incorporating their manufacturing methods. It seems like they made the decision to bank success on the name/nostalgia and not quality or reputation. I'm sure they are building to a price point, but some simple process improvements could really improve quality while maintaining current pricing.
 
That looks fantastic, great job. Thank you for the info. I was planning to replace parts anyway, but I'll need to brush up on how to do a BTGS, gotta learn some time. I bent the leaf spring finger out, the BTGS isn't flopping all over the place as badly now. Should have thought of that. This will buy me time until I can get Sally Struthers to send me the gun smithing pamphlet.

The sear is truly fantastic though: View attachment 1384229
I'm not even mad, this has been such a stressful week that this is pleasantly amusing.
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I really thought CZ would refine and improve things. I was thinking about one because of the Checkering only. Well and the fact that it is a Colt.
That Sear
 
I really thought CZ would refine and improve things. I was thinking about one because of the Checkering only. Well and the fact that it is a Colt.
That Sear
Same...my apparently unrealistic dream was bringing the DW quality fit and finish to colt. I understand that people are used to their <$1000 colts but they could bring a new line of guns or maybe the special edition guns that are essentially a rebranded DW. If this SE colt was essentially a DW valor but with the aesthetics of the current gun, I would have happily paid $1800 or so for it.
 
mine was the same when I first got it. Would not feed or cycle anything unless there was 5 rounds or less in the magazines. Sent it back to Colt, and now it it cycles fully loaded mags just fine (snap caps). Still haven’t been to the range to see how it does now. What serial number is yours? Mine is in the 900’s
Mine is going back. The person at Colt was very nice, knowledgeable, friendly, and they seemed genuinely interested, even asking for photos after saying they were emailing a shipping label to me. So, their front end seems to be good.

I honestly would have sent it off to a smith, but that isn't what I wanted this gun for. We shall see.
 
Same...my apparently unrealistic dream was bringing the DW quality fit and finish to colt. I understand that people are used to their <$1000 colts but they could bring a new line of guns or maybe the special edition guns that are essentially a rebranded DW. If this SE colt was essentially a DW valor but with the aesthetics of the current gun, I would have happily paid $1800 or so for it.
CZ should shut down the Colt 1911 line and then rebrand DW as Colt. Then you could finally get a quality "Colt" 1911.
 
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