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I respect it. Although, if it was my dad I’d tell him it better show some wear when you pass it down to me. A safe queen does not tell stories - it may shoot great, but I want to think about him running it hard and loving it.
I'd be giving it to my other kid then.
Ha! That’s totally fair. I hope you enjoy your heirlooms!
 
If i won't carry it/use it, I dont have it in the safe. I do have pistols I choose to carry over others. For various reasons weight, size, application etc. And some have specific use cases. My grandfather's old patrol rifle/hunting rifle, JM stamped marlin 336. Its older than I am, its my truck gun. Its worth more to me than any firearm I own. Whats an heirloom without a story, a story of use by the person passing it. To me it would be hollow otherwise and mean much less without the stories, seeing that persan carry and use it.

These are tools after all. Gorgeous tools, but still a tool regardless in my mind. Carry the damn thing! Whats the point of having it if you cant enjoy it. Let the next guy worry about the wear and tear.
This is exactly right, heirlooms derive their value from their use by a loved one. I have firearms that are monetarily less valuable but were carried by my grandfather for decades hunting and that makes them priceless.
 
Agree. And were talking about expensive custom 1911s- I have, no joke, seen people buy Taurus because they don't to lose their "expensive" Glocks. Or bought Glocks cause they couldn't stand the thought of losing a Colt 1911

To me the only real downside to a super expensive carry gun- say, 2k and up- isn't just that its expensive, I also have to follow my own iron clad rule of having duplicates.
 
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Just having said that or having that thought about losing an expensive gun if I shoot someone has damaged your reaction time! Now what?
If you mean a person gets in a situation where they need to defend themselves with lethal force and the first thought through their head is “oh no! My staccato! [insert: NH/Atlas/etc here]” Then I would say that person needs to align their priorities with the reality at hand.

What is $2k/$5k/$10k when your life is on the line? I’m not saying you HAVE to carry your fanciest gun…but if it’s your favorite and the only reason you don’t carry it is because you’re scared it’ll be impounded - that’s silly.
 
I hear the same thing as the OP and often find it to be musing. It honestly never crosses my mind, bigger fish to fry. As Dave said above, if you are involved in a shooting the cost of the gun will be far down the list of issues.
 
Going to keep this as short as possible.

People always bring up the fact you may lose your gun (forever or for several years) if involved in a self defense situation. For this reason people say they wouldn’t or you shouldn’t carry an expensive EDC.

I call bullshit. If you end up in a court room over your self defense shooting your lawyer fees for a single day will be more than most pistols - even your semi customs. Source: I’m a lawyer and see what fees we charge (in a small/mid market) everyday.

If a couple thousand dollars will bankrupt you, maybe the story is different…otherwise, run what you got. Self defense shootings are expensive. Get carry insurance.

I’ll step down from my soapbox. Hope everyone has a good weekend.
Well, if you're a lawyer, then the next question is what percentage of self-defense shootings go to some sort of trial?

You hear of instances where the cops show up, realize it was a justifiable self-defense shooting and declare it such, and the good guy goes home. Any truth to that?
 
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Going to keep this as short as possible.

People always bring up the fact you may lose your gun (forever or for several years) if involved in a self defense situation. For this reason people say they wouldn’t or you shouldn’t carry an expensive EDC.

I call bullshit. If you end up in a court room over your self defense shooting your lawyer fees for a single day will be more than most pistols - even your semi customs. Source: I’m a lawyer and see what fees we charge (in a small/mid market) everyday.

If a couple thousand dollars will bankrupt you, maybe the story is different…otherwise, run what you got. Self defense shootings are expensive. Get carry insurance.

I’ll step down from my soapbox. Hope everyone has a good weekend.
Well, if you're a lawyer, then the next question is what percentage of self-defense shootings go to some sort of trial?

You hear of instances where the cops show up, realize it was a justifiable self-defense shooting and declare it such, and the good guy goes home. Any truth to that?
I’ll stay in my lane. I do Mergers & Acquisitions and Tax law day-to-day. I have also heard those stories. I’ll be googling that tonight though!
 
Going to keep this as short as possible.

People always bring up the fact you may lose your gun (forever or for several years) if involved in a self defense situation. For this reason people say they wouldn’t or you shouldn’t carry an expensive EDC.

I call bullshit. If you end up in a court room over your self defense shooting your lawyer fees for a single day will be more than most pistols - even your semi customs. Source: I’m a lawyer and see what fees we charge (in a small/mid market) everyday.

If a couple thousand dollars will bankrupt you, maybe the story is different…otherwise, run what you got. Self defense shootings are expensive. Get carry insurance.

I’ll step down from my soapbox. Hope everyone has a good weekend.
my EDC are my arm cannons, I know enough to take someone down and knock em out. Gun is only a last resort against somebody with a shotgun or rifle. Too much liability with guns, my arms are legit weapons or so the ladies say ;)
 
Well, if you're a lawyer, then the next question is what percentage of self-defense shootings go to some sort of trial?

You hear of instances where the cops show up, realize it was a justifiable self-defense shooting and declare it such, and the good guy goes home. Any truth to that?
Pretty minimal number. A DGU usually looks justifiable or not and many do end with LEO response. Next stop is the intake lawyer at prosecutor's office. The rules differ by state. Florida, for instance has a stand your ground law which provides criminal and civil immunity. They changed the burden of proof years back and the state now has the burden of proving you are NOT entitled to SYG immunity. Folks ask for SYG hearings these days because it's tough for the state to prevail. It will stave off a civil suit.

As an aside, the Zimmerman case had the prior burden on the defendant to prove SYG and they didn't claim it because Georgie would have needed to testify.
 
I think there are several valid points in the thread. One factor that I take into consideration is how the gun will be handled or stored while in evidence. I've seen how one department does not exercise much care in the handling of firearms that are placed in evidence or safekeeping. If I had an expensive handgun get damaged by the police department due to their negligent handling and storage, that would bother me more so than the time I didn't have access to the handgun.
 
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