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Discussion starter · #61 ·
Thank you for the clarification.
You're welcome!
I wouldn't let grip angle decide one way or the other. If you're target focused, on presentation from the holster, the red dot just comes up sooner on the Glock than the 1911/2011. However, if you're red dot focused, you'll probably lose the dot switching between platforms.
 
I asked specifically because (i believe it was 1911 syndicate, but don't get me lying to you... I've watched quite a few YouTube reviews, and had quite a few cold beers by now) ....paraphrasing a bit but, "stealth arms says it's identical to a 1911 grip angle, but to my hands, its not...it's a tweener". Hence, my questioning of guy who owned both. And I believe he did say they were slightly different?

I shoot 2011 great, glock... not as comfy. The sub 2k price is intriguing, glock mags are enticing for a beater gun. But, I'm not gonna spend 2k for a gun that only points as well for me as a glock. My shadow systems does that for 1/2 price. Thats my hands, not talking **** in the least, but for me...a 2011 points faster than a glock. No one local has a platypus in stock, so I'm simply asking guy who has both.

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Discussion starter · #63 · (Edited)
I've got (5) 1911's and (3) 2011's. The major difference is girth. Maybe for a particular hand, the girth of a certain double-stack-1911 or 2011 grip will mimic the Glock backstrap hump and give the impression of pushing high, but the Platypus angle is the same as a 1911/2011.

Plat on the left, Atlas Alpha grip on the right. The Plat grip circumference is much pointier than the Atlas grip. The both have the same angle vertically down the back edge of the backstrap, but the curve across the diameter of the grip is different. That pointier Plat grip circumference may feel like the Glock backstrap hump to some hands.

On draw from holster, the Plat indexes identical to a 1911/2011 for me.

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That picture speaks a thousand words to the girth difference. Guess I need to run one hard to see, for my hands, what feels better. Pics alone, betting the 2011.

BTW, your profile pic is the exact reason I don't own every pistol I want to (yet). Want an atlas eos in the worst way, but ohlins rebuilds on both track bikes in the off season isn't cheap. Then you consider gasgas 500's selling otd right now for basically same price as a Erebus is a finicky balancing act of priorities! Another fancy pistol, or a sumo to rip kart tracks in the off-season. Decisions, decisions.
 
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Want an atlas eos in the worst way, but ohlins rebuilds on both track bikes in the off season isn't cheap. Then you consider gasgas 500's selling otd right now for basically same price as a Erebus is a finicky balancing act of priorities! Another fancy pistol, or a sumo to rip kart tracks in the off-season. Decisions, decisions.
The smell of gunpowder or race gas just gets my adrenalin pumping. I'm too old for the race track now, but I can still do race guns and keep up with the younger guys. Enjoy the speed as much as you can - none of us are getting any younger.

If you're still young enough - do the motorsports first. When you get older, you can still do the run-and-gun sports. The hard limit on age at a race track is much more severe than at a shooting match.
 
Discussion starter · #68 · (Edited)
I had an Eos on order but cancelled when the organizer of the unsanctioned shooting series I participate in decided he wasn't going to keep track of divisional differences in gun type and just run us all in the same group. I think everyone in the top ~10 immediately went out and bought something with a compensator. I cancelled the Eos and got an Erebus instead. So the Platypus is my Eos substitute.
 
Discussion starter · #69 ·
Wake27,
I'm about 800 rounds in on my Plat. I still can't get a full 17-round magazine to lock into the mag catch without the slide open. Depending on the mag, I can get a mag downloaded to 15 or 16-rounds to go in on closed slide, but the only way I can get a full 17-round magazine in is at slide lockback. Does your Plat do the same?
 
Wake27,
I'm about 800 rounds in on my Plat. I still can't get a full 17-round magazine to lock into the mag catch without the slide open. Depending on the mag, I can get a mag downloaded to 15 or 16-rounds to go in on closed slide, but the only way I can get a full 17-round magazine in is at slide lockback. Does your Plat do the same?
I would maybe reach out to Stealth and see what’s up with that. My Platypus will take any of the 20 or so mags I’ve tried in it, all completely full.
 
Guys at T-rex arms did an extensive test, ie. couple thousand rounds, on their platypus recently. Mixed results in terms of reliability. Lot's of stove pipes. Either bad mags or extractor needed a tune, guess on my part. I still like the idea of this gat, but certainly not any more or less reliable than a staccato. Staccato mags have been drop tested, and seem to continue to function reliably. Over insertion, well that's a thing in 2011s.
Funny that they had FTE…I had FTF for the first 500ish rounds and felt like I was the only one not having the flawless experience. No matter what mags I ran (standard or neutered), I had FTF on the first one or two rounds. A bump to the back of the slide fixed it every time, but I was pretty bummed. It must have been a break-in period because I don’t have that issue at all anymore.
 
Wake27,
I'm about 800 rounds in on my Plat. I still can't get a full 17-round magazine to lock into the mag catch without the slide open. Depending on the mag, I can get a mag downloaded to 15 or 16-rounds to go in on closed slide, but the only way I can get a full 17-round magazine in is at slide lockback. Does your Plat do the same?
I would maybe reach out to Stealth and see what’s up with that. My Platypus will take any of the 20 or so mags I’ve tried in it, all completely full.
My experience has been solid as well. I have two dozen G17/19X mags and never have had an issue with any. The only ones that didn’t seat right were Glock PMAGs. I had a brief but great experience with their CS and also recommend reaching out.
 
One of these is not like the others...

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I've only got 100 rounds through the Platypus, but pulled out some of my other 1911's to compare.

My Platypus is basically an $1800 double-stack 1911 with a $500 Cerakote paint job. It's inferior in fit/finish to the Wilsons (ACP and Experior) and Nighthawk (Talon 2) and Dan Wesson (PM9).

The Platypus is 1/3 the price of the more expensive Wilson and Nighthawk, so it's probably not fair to compare against them too much.

The Dan Wesson PM9 MSRP's for the same as the Platypus. At the same price point, the DW PM9 is stainless steel vs. carbon steel and aluminum on the Platypus. The Platypus has worse blending on the beaver tail/grip safety, thumb safeties and slide stop. The Platypus has better carry-blending than the DW on the slide.

Stealth Arms got barrel lock up tight, the slide-to-frame fit is tight and all the controls are positive and smooth.

My Platypus has the normal-prickle grip texture. This would probably be too aggressive against bare skin AIWB. The tool-cut metal serrations on the other 1911's give a better hold (except for the Wilson ACP which is horrible). The Platypus prickle grip is good enough for EDC. I would only get the less aggressive Platypus grip texture if you're carrying AIWB - it offers very poor hold.

The Platypus has the worst trigger. All these guns are in the 3-4 pound range, but only the Platypus has creep before the break. I like to shoot fast, so it really doesn't matter to me (I'm going to mash right through the creep), but if you like to stage the trigger, this is going to be an issue. Here, more money means more time spent fitting at the factory. Trigger feel gets better linearly amongst these five guns as price increases.

The Cerakote is Cerakote which means it's tracing paper delicate. The ejection port is already chipping, the magwell is scraped up and it's only been 100 rounds and I haven't even started stuffing it into a holster yet.

Shooting wise... I haven't shot these back-to-back. Comparing by memory, these guns are all about the same for the shooting I like to do (fast drills under 25 yards). More recoil with the aluminum frame and no shock-buff, the commanders point faster than the government. They are all solid guns and more similar than dis-similar. Like any well built 1911, shooting the Platypus is like the familiarity of shaking the hand of friend you haven't seen in a while.

Objectively, striker fired guns have improved so much. I can shoot my compensated Glock-45 better than any of my 1911's. It's not until the high-end 2011's that the hammer guns perform significantly better than the striker guns.

But the 1911 platform is an emotional thing for me. For example, I'll rack and dry fire the Nighthawk because it's just such an exceptionally well built gun with an exquisitely fitted trigger. Experiencing that level of machining is like enjoying a fine meal or feeling the warmth of the sun on a cold day.

The Platypus is in the colors I like, making it the most personalized of my 1911's. It's light because of the aluminum frame and after I confirm reliability with another 1,000 rounds, I'll carry it for my winter EDC.

My initial impression is that the Platypus build quality is in-line with it's base price. It's better built and finished than significantly cheaper guns. It cannot compare with more expensive guns. You are not getting Wilson/Nighthawk levels of fit/finish. The Platypus price increases as you add more colors and options. I think this is what you're paying for - extreme color customization (and Glock mags). It's a good shooter. It's a 1911.
So, i basically configured my platypus. Need advice. Finger groves are an option as surely you all know. But, basically every photo or YouTube video out in the wild of a platypus I seem to find (just like the one in this thread)…they’re all lacking finger groves. What gives? I thought they can be useful in controlling the pistol. What’s the deal? How come I’m never seeing one with groves? It isn’t an extra cost, what am I missing? Are the legitimate reasons why? Is it simply an aesthetic preference? What’s going on? Any legitimate input would be sincerely appreciated…
 
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