Hey all, looking at purchasing my first 2011. Not sure if i want to go with something factory compensated like the prodigy comp, or buying a standard model and having it ported. I live in NY so threaded barrels are a no no. I’ve never shot competition but would like to leave that option on the table if possible. I know compensated or ported guns are not legal in competition, but what if I swap in a factory non ported/comp’d barrel and the slide retains whatever cuts it has, does that make it legal for competition since the barrel isn’t modified and only the slide has a cutout? I assume yes since there’s no difference in performance as long as the barrel isn’t modified, slide cuts won’t really change anything.
Firearmjunky22
The organized shooting sports, USPSA, IDPA, etc., have pretty well defined descriptions of mods that are legal/illegal. Go to their website and get to the rules, then look at Appendices to see the gun requirements for each Division. Generally, slide cuts are OK except (I think) Production. You're 2011 can have slide cuts in the divisions it qualifies for. Open division allows comps and (I think) ports. Outlaw matches are just that... rules vary.
USPSA Limited optics is a 9mm , optic ready pistol division they started to include all the new guns with optics
It allows slide cut through to the barrel but no Comps. Comps put you in open class
IDPA has carry optics where 1911/2011 optic guns can be used .
I don't know if you can have cuts on the slide through to the barrel, definitely no comps
It allows slide cut through to the barrel but no Comps. Comps put you in open class
IDPA has carry optics where 1911/2011 optic guns can be used .
I don't know if you can have cuts on the slide through to the barrel, definitely no comps
thanks! I looked up the rules and both carry optics and limited optics say barrel comp and barrel port “no” and slide port as “yes”.
so I assume slide cuts are fine, anything directly done to the barrel is a no.
IDPA allows for compensators and ported barrels that are part of the gun, such as the Prodigy Comp and Staccato XC:
A.2.3 ESP Permitted Modifications
A.2.3.1 See Allowances and Restriction in 8.1.6 and 8.1.7 in the IDPA Rulebook
A.2.3.2 Compensated and ported barrels that are incorporated into the firearm.
So, no frame or rail mounted compensators, such as the Underworld Arms rail comps for 2011s. I use my XC in IDPA all the time, IMO that is the top IDPA legal gun.
A.2.3 ESP Permitted Modifications
A.2.3.1 See Allowances and Restriction in 8.1.6 and 8.1.7 in the IDPA Rulebook
A.2.3.2 Compensated and ported barrels that are incorporated into the firearm.
So, no frame or rail mounted compensators, such as the Underworld Arms rail comps for 2011s. I use my XC in IDPA all the time, IMO that is the top IDPA legal gun.
Yeah. USPSA I don't know. But, devil's advocate, maybe an alternative to your plan, if you get a regular ole non-ported/comp'ed 2011, such as a Prodigy, Bul Armory, Kimber 2k11, or Staccato P, and then get the DSC Gunworks Comp Barrel Kit for when you want to play with a comp'ed gun. Just some food for thought.
@Firearmjunky22 good questions but don't worry, there is a division in uspsa for basically every gun in existence. So you can have it with or without the comped barrel, with or without a red dot, with or without a "hi cap" magazine, and there's a division it will fit in. Just get the gun you like and if competition is in the future, bring it and the match director can tell you what division to shoot in based on the setup you are currently using. 🙂
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