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I have a 226 SAO that I have had for probably 12 years. I had to sell all my guns once to raise money and the Sig stayed. I’ll never sell it, even with numerous guns I own that cost way more, if war came calling, it would still get the call. Sig has been around a long time and they’ll survive this. It’s going to hurt though.
 
So it's bad enough that the Sig P320 is going off uncommanded. But what really turns me against Sig is the way they are trying to sue organizations who don't want to use their dangerous firearm anymore. That seems like something the liberal deep state does. How are you going to use the court system to try to force somebody to use your product? Sig considers themselves as a permanent fixture in government. Perhaps this attitude is what led them to put out inferior products with poor quality control. Just like any other government institution! Just my rant.
Maybe but there are rumblings in the military over the new rifles.
 
Sig is the hot topic today…

This isn’t the first time a major firearms company has found itself catching push back.

In 2017, Springfield Armory and Rock River threw small Illinois FFLs under the bus.

Back in the early 2000s, Smith & Wesson cozied up to the Clinton administration.

And those are just the high-profile examples. I’m certain There are plenty more if you dig through history.

The truth is, Americans tend to have a short memory. Just like 90% of gun owners moved past the controversies with Springfield, Rock River, and Smith & Wesson, they’ll eventually move past the current uproar with Sig too.

Nothing different this time.
What the heck are you talking about!!?!? My memory’s as short as….🤦‍♂️🤬
 
I think the two videos that are now out, one by Phil Strader and the other by Bruce Gray, are Sig's position/statement on the 320.
 
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Absolutely agree. But what’s the alternative? Admit the product is bad? I think the ship has sailed on that one, Sig’s rep is too far gone for that to work now. “It Ends Today” was actually true—just not in the way Sig intended.
Admitting the problem and fixing it is the only way to end this. Yes, it will hurt, but the direction the toilet bowl is swirling now will be worse in the long run. SIG needs to own up to this and come up with a solution or they will end up on the marked for sale as a stripped entity for pennies on the dollar.........ask Remington.
 
Admitting the problem and fixing it is the only way to end this. Yes, it will hurt, but the direction the toilet bowl is swirling now will be worse in the long run. SIG needs to own up to this and come up with a solution or they will end up on the marked for sale as a stripped entity for pennies on the dollar.........ask Remington.
I don't think they fully understand the problem yet.
 
I have heard that in the past, gun manufacturers had to refund the amount they were paid when a Government had a problem with the product after purchase. The agency kept the product. I do not know if this is fact.
If this is the case here, could this be an attempt by SIG to save money paid to them?
 
I don't think they fully understand the problem yet.
I suspect this is the problem. I think Sig is scrambling and can’t figure it out, and won’t admit there’s a problem until they have a solution.
 
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Sig is the hot topic today…

This isn’t the first time a major firearms company has found itself catching push back.

In 2017, Springfield Armory and Rock River threw small Illinois FFLs under the bus.

Back in the early 2000s, Smith & Wesson cozied up to the Clinton administration.

And those are just the high-profile examples. I’m certain There are plenty more if you dig through history.

The truth is, Americans tend to have a short memory. Just like 90% of gun owners moved past the controversies with Springfield, Rock River, and Smith & Wesson, they’ll eventually move past the current uproar with Sig too.

Nothing different this time.
And Remington had 700 rifles with bad triggers that they were sued over.
 
SIG: Because we don't believe in freedom of choice, and we want Big Government to back us up.
That’s 100% not true when it comes to Police Departments and law enforcement agencies. Those are contracts. They made a written promise to use those firearms and it’s laid out in very, crystal clear terms in those contracts.

Sig might very well be in their rights to sue those agencies talking smack about their product or banning their use.

Full disclosure: I own zero Sigs.
 
That’s 100% not true when it comes to Police Departments and law enforcement agencies. Those are contracts. They made a written promise to use those firearms and it’s laid out in very, crystal clear terms in those contracts.

Sig might very well be in their rights to sue those agencies talking smack about their product or banning their use.

Full disclosure: I own zero Sigs.
I don’t have any of the complaints in front of me, but I don’t think Sig in fact sued for breach of contract.
 
That’s 100% not true when it comes to Police Departments and law enforcement agencies. Those are contracts. They made a written promise to use those firearms and it’s laid out in very, crystal clear terms in those contracts.

Sig might very well be in their rights to sue those agencies talking smack about their product or banning their use.

Full disclosure: I own zero Sigs.
No contract can compel the purchasing agency to continue using a product once there is compelling evidence it's defective -- in this case, potentially lethally. Each agency is well within its rights to stand down on fielding the firearm and stating why.

SIG's just doubling down on moral bankruptcy by trying to lawfare its way through this.
 
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